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Nobody has ever complained it was unfair to pay Keppinger, Bonifacio, Rollins or Morneau, etc., those salaries. On the other hand, Alexei was underpaid quite clearly...until they corrected it. At any rate, it continues the emerging storyline the Sox are not focused due to peripheral/off the field issues, when getting back into the Wild Card race would have been the sole driver for a winning organization. All we seem to get these days are distractions, and not entirely positive ones.

It's not a salary dump situation 100%, but there will likely be disappointment in the return for Robertson unless he's packaged together with Quintana and there's no realistic way to separate out the trade return value. Hard to argue his value hasn't taken a decent-sized hit since the second week of May.

Had an interesting conversation with cousin in Dallas today. Says the most logical way to get Mexico to help pay for the border wall would be to tax the remittances through Western Union, Pay Pal, Xoom back to their home country at 25-33%. This would push some illegal immigrants back to Mexico and/or open up more job opportunities for American unemployed workers....creating an eventual higher salary for American workers over time because of lower demand from illegal immigrants for those jobs.

This is much worse than Melania's speech nonsense. Congrats in pissing off the entire progressive wing...with no accommodation to Sanders, Liz Warren, Tom Perez, etc.

Hope there is a Sanders revolt. He, Biden, the Obamas, her husband....will all overshadow her speech. Kaine might be the only one who can't...he would make a better Kiwanis or Rotary Club president.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 07:32 AM) Hopefully Nate Jones gets to come in with the game on the line again and blow it to Cabrera again Wasn't it Castellanos? He struck out Cabrera. Walked Victor intentionally...

They should have Thome, Buehrle or Konerko sit down and talk to him about professionalism...and being the face of the franchise to young kids everywhere. The responsibility that entails. Heck, the example he is setting for his own family, on a micro level. Can you imagine how embarrassing it would be if Little Leaguers somewhere copied that stunt or a high school or university team unhappy with their coach did the same thing?

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 06:41 AM) Exactly. This is what he said before, which struck me as a statement that contained a lot of hostility or hate as you said: Sale commenting after LaRoach matter: "This is a bigger issue than being told his son can't be around. It's a much deeper issue," Sale said, then referred directly to Williams: "We got bold-faced lied to by someone we're supposed to be able to trust." The White Sox should have traded Sale after that disrespectful comment and frankly, I don't care what motivated it. Can anyone even imagine a Yankee calling Cashman a bald faced liar and remaining on the team? No more special rules for special players. That is what caused the LaRoach problem in the first place. Would this have happened on a winning team...rather than one that's missed the playoffs for a longer stretch than only the Pads, Marlins and Mariners? Losing brings out frustration in even the best players over time.

Trading the number two lefty of his generation out of spite is how the White Sox end up in fourth or fifth place for another generation. Making Jose Quintana the centerpiece of the organization will ensure that we're even more irrelevant with the next generation of young fans in Chicago. Let's not forget it was Hahn who was dissed here on this occasion...can he keep his wits about him and make the perfect trade under these conditions? Does this happen with ANY manager...or is it simply a sign of a systemic lack of control that dates back to the last season of Ozzie at the helm (2011)? Did Don Cooper also help contribute to the creation of an environment where Sale feels he's so special he can get away with or basically be forgiven for anything because of his unique talent level?

Sale will probably be inserted as punishment after some scrub reliever gives up 2-3 in the top half an inning in extras and there are still 0-1 outs left to get.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 10:27 PM) I hope you all know that there were no "jersey sales". This jersey was not even for sale, it was a free giveaway. If you were Sale, wouldn't you justifiably feel marketing/pr/concessions revenues/profits were prioritized over field a winning team? Especially after starting his career in 2010 and then 2012. Completely disagree with immature actions, but the fanbase definitely shares similar frustrations with the front office. The key difference being we don't have the option of turning over buffet tables or sabotaging uniforms. Easy to imagine Hahn just walking away. KW would have tried to get into a fist fight...after having the team and front office so clearly called out and direspected. Fried chicken and brews, inimitably ChiSox style.

Shows a consistent pattern and not all animus simply aimed at KW.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/page/traded...-deadline-daily

Great media subplot for the City Series next week. You wonder if he will either apologize publicly or dig in further and refuse to discuss it at all.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 09:21 PM) Looks like a suspended game is a possibility. Terrible night for the Sox. Three months almost now....

Not to be...seems Jones is determined to lower his trade value as well. How many Tigers fans there?

Typical late innings self-inflicted wound.

What else is new or unexpected with this organization?

It's such hit and miss there in that mid-range, though. One year, Anderson, the previous, Hawkins. Look at Corey Ray's statline, Kyle Lewis' terrible knee injury (see Jared Mitchell)....Kyle Tucker and Daz Cameron with the Astros, etc. Nothing is close to certain. Imo, we probably need to trade our way to contention with younger position prospects, pilfering the best already developed advanced bats with the proper blend of athleticism and plate discipline.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0721-story.html

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/opinions/tru...gala/index.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-tr...--election.html Fact checking Trump's speech http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/07...region&_r=0 Ivanka's version of Trump nowhere to be found

Ivanka's was ten times more positive. http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/politics/iva...eech/index.html Trump's was thirty minutes too long....filled with zero specifics or details or ways to implement...and sounded more similar to George Wallace in 1968 than Ronald Reagan in 1980. He's flip flopped on so many positions its impossible to know where he stands on anything. In the end, cutting taxes/supply side economics has been a consistent failure to do anything over the last thirty years except blow up the deficit even further. Nobody noticed the obvious contradictions between positions last night and everything MikePence stands for? Welcome to Germany 1933...

Over? Couldnt quite catch the ESPN story...

QUOTE (Tony @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 04:25 PM) That's not true, even a little bit. They just said they have 100% ruled out the addition of a rental player at the deadline. Hahn called them a mediocre team. When have the White Sox EVER come out and said that? Okay...still doesn't rule out additions like CarGo or Bruce....but at least it's a bit more definitive than in the past. Link? Podcast? Hahn can't even guarantee a path, how could Barstool? At least he's seemingly enjoying his time in the sun/15 minutes of fame...inundated with so many PMs it's distracting him from accomplishing anything at work. I can't imagine any tean allowing names to come out before a deal has almost been completed or that leak will be closed up fast.

QUOTE (Tony @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 04:11 PM) The small item of good news is Hahn just addressed the media and said all the right things. Heard the full interview. Still not sure they know how to pull it off..... He always says the right things. That's never his problem.