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QUOTE (kwill @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:49 AM) Would you trade Rodon+Shark for Tulo? No way. I wouldn't even be willing to take on that contract if he was run through waivers. KW would claim him, but it's a huge risk from an age and injury history standpoint. Certainly wouldn't be sending Rodon to get it done...unless the coaching staff was 100% in agreement with ptac that the mechanical side won't lend itself to repeatability in his delivery and there's significant risk that he'll always be an inconsistent starter with great stuff but spotty command and an underdeveloped third pitch.

Please get injured more often if you're going to continue to perform at this level.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:43 AM) I find that very hard to believe. 3 of their top 5 prospects for a 28 year old with an ERA over 4? I know he has multiple years on his contract but still Perhaps he meant they were all offered individually....or take 2/3, but not all three? Not sure. It does seem way too steep a price to pay, regardless of Carrasco's stuff, he hasn't emerged as a frontline starter in their rotation. More of a 3/4 guy, not unlike an Edwin Jackson.

Bottom line is that the A’s and the Reds didn’t exactly get blown away by the offers that were made (for Cueto and Kazmir, both teams wanted Stroman/plus/plus), yet in discussions with the Jays, they seemed to be shooting much higher than they actually got in return. Either that or neither team holds Toronto’s pool of minor-leaguers in the same high regard as the Blue Jays do. Time is running short and a creative way for Anthopoulos to make his team better would be to make the late innings a lockdown situation for years to come, rather than overpay for a starter who, at best, is going to make a dozen starts for him at an exorbitant cost. http://www.torontosun.com/2015/07/27/blue-...go-for-a-closer

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:38 AM) [/b] Where did you hear that? Indians would be stupid not to do that deal Toronto Sun sports columnist

Wow...Hoffman changes things quite a bit. Looking better and better from the Rockies' side of things at the moment, without even taking into consideration the 4th player. Essentially, they're saving about half the money they would have had to pay Tulo, they're getting a player in Reyes who might be just as if not more productive and adding essentially a Top Five caliber arm in Hoffman, a top young reliever and another piece. Good move if you're the Rockies, although he was their franchise player. Someone was guessing Marcus Stroman (asking price for Cueto), but that would be insane for the Blue Jays unless they know something nobody else does about his medicals. The Jays did offer lefty Daniel Norris, No. 1 pick Jeff Hoffman and outfielder Dalton Pompey in talks with the Cleveland Indians for right-hander Carlos Carrasco. Thought that was interesting, from the Toronto Sun. We also were offered a better glimpse into the true value of Quintana and Sale. Some of their sportswriters in TOR are giving up on acquiring a starter and begging AA to go after Kimbrel instead to solidify the bullpen and copy the KC model/blueprint, pairing Kimbrel with Schultz, Osuna, Aaron Sanchez and Brett Cecil for innings 6-9.

QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 11:33 PM) I've seen a number of places that Hoffman, Pentecost, and Norris will not be in the deal. Toronto got a steal in my opinion. Only issue will be Tulos health playing on the turf. CarGo is on fire right now I'd love to get him, just have no faith in RH or KW to get it done. Are we really going to judge this on his last 28 at-bats? From 2012-2014, he was a .759 hitter on the road. More alarmingly, his OPS during that three year time frame is only .720 after the All-Star Break. 644 in August, 718 in September. 12/49 against AL teams this year, 3 homers and 9 RBI's (AL West). Is it worth spending $42.3 million and dumping Avi for a player who's already peaked and has proven to be injury-prone for most of the last 3-4 seasons? It's a huge gamble. It's not one that Rick Hahn would take. Kenny Williams, probably, because he's a "name" player, 29, was once more or less close to a superstar, etc.

Puig trade possibility a mystery should be the new and improved thread title.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 11:33 PM) Dodgers are trying to trade Guerrero, any interest? Sure, but the problem is he's not a SS, so he would have to play 3B or DH. Supposedly, his defense has been very shaky. Would totally depend upon the cost, obviously. Trading Shark for him would be interesting, though...but he has that escape clause in his contract that would be hard to justify acquiring him. You'd have to go to Abreu and Ramirez and ask their opinions about both Puig and Guerrero, logically.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 11:26 PM) Declining K rates from Samardzija are concerning. Overall, he hasn't been super duper this year. Dodgers seem to want to deal Puig, so wouldn't give up more than Q. While a fair deal, I would do it. Great talent, but don't trust Puig. You sound like Balta now. Actually if you correct for moving from the NL to the AL (two less at-bats from pitchers), and also moving from the AL West to the AL Central...his performance is pretty much in line with expectations, especially if you take away April (like with Eaton and Melky) and follow the general trendline for those three. He's also pitching longer into games, which is important in terms of resting tired bullpens in the dog days of August. In fact, he's pitched at least 7 innings now for nine consecutive games. He has been far and away the most effective this past month, 20 k's in 31.2 IP but a stellar 1.71 ERA. He started in April with 22 K's in 32 IP, then ramped it up to 32 k's in 36 IP in May but wasn't effective at all for the first half of June, as he was striking out 34 in 40.2 IP but nevertheless had an ERA of nearly 6 (5.75).

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:34 PM) Saved many lives. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/27/cinci...oncealed-carry/ And what's the ratio of successful interventions compared to the situations where someone else at the scene is shot by the civilian/good guy shooter? I'm guessing nobody has that useful statistic.

QUOTE (BigFinn @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 11:22 PM) How about Wilbur28? Something historical. Too old school? Has there been another major leaguer with that first name since Wilbur Wood?

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:55 PM) Deals for Shark to TOR and SF in place. The deals are sitting there. KW is still "all in" on '16 and Rick is not so there's that drama right now. The problem is that the Giants have too much respect for Hudson and Vogelsong to push them out of the rotation at this point. Although surely we have interest in Susac/Sanchez (catchers) for one...

15:$22M, 16:$22M, 17:$22M, 18:$22M club option ($4M buyout) Reyes is owed basically another $55 million, including the remainder of this year. The price tag for CarGo's around $42.3 million, or a Melky Cabrera contract.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:57 PM) They might trade him to us to try and get Anderson now They're not going to just dump or bench Alexei Ramirez now with how he's been playing recently. (Now it's getting confusing, I meant turn around and trade Jose Reyes to the Sox....there's two issues, getting CarGo for Avisail and figuring out who our SS for next season will be without screwing up our chemistry/morale from the last month. Kind of a delicate situation.)

How long before Tulowitzki gets injured on that stadium turf? For all of those wishing he'd get back into playoffs contention, it's not like he was traded to the Cardinals, Royals or Pirates. Without some more pitching, TOR has far from an automatic path to the 2nd WC.

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:09 PM) I personally would much rather move Avi, Montas in a package for Cargo plus Cash. I like Q too much to move him. It's nuts to give up any prospects for CarGo unless they're eating a significant amount of that contract. It's not unlike when the Sox claimed Alex Rios. Somehow, if KW were at the controls, he'd probably be the only team in baseball to assume that contract as well. Trading Garcia, sure, might make sense but anything beyond that (Montas/Anderson) is just making it harder to compete over the next couple fo seasons. I detest those White Sox "cost savings" moves that deplete our talent base in return for more profitability. If you want Anderson/Montas AND to get rid of CarGo's contract, it better be more along the lines of the Thome deal. Even then, I don't think at his age and with the league change that he's going to be anything but a shadow of his former self in the AL.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:03 PM) I'd offer a package of Shark, Putnam, & Montas for Puig. You hope that Puig, Erik Johnson, & Nate Jones in aggragate is an upgrade over Avi, Shark, & Putnam. If not, still sets you up nicely for the next few years. The problem with this is it's basically two relievers (Montas hasn't proven he can be an effective starter and go 7+ innings consistently) and a rental. Maybe the Dodgers would bite on it, but they'll hold out for Quintana. Obviously, we are not in a position at present time to deal both Q and Shark, that would end our playoff run before it even gets started. Or they might counter, it will take Shark, Anderson and Montas for Puig.

Quintana for Puig is the only move that makes sense for both sides. The White Sox get a cost-controlled player how in the right environment is one of the top 3-5 players in the game and a legit superstar. He also could be a bust. The Dodgers get incredible consistency out of the #3 spot going into the playoffs, and, with Ryu, that provides them a formidable rotation in the coming years. Not to mention there's at least a 50/50 chance they can't retain Greinke's services, so they really need solid/reliable pitching, not veteran 4/5 guys who are placeholders.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 09:58 PM) Yeah, the Rocks will never have enough pitching. How many teams would have even trotted him out for #4? He had actually been really good for most of the season until recently. Didn't they use LaTroy Hawkins once or twice this year, or was that last season? Don't really follow the Rockies at all...

Uh-oh. The legend of Kris Bryant is resuscitated. Perfect night ruined. Oh well.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 09:38 PM) If I'm doing Q for Puig straight up I'd try to find a way to dump some dead weight instead of a decent prospect. Maybe I'm overvaluing Q but Puig's value has got to be pretty low (for him at least) right now, Except what need do they have for Danks, LaRoche or an outfielder?

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 09:32 PM) JP Morosi said he could see Sox going after Tulo earlier today on MLBN Wow, that would be a shocker. Still hesitant about adding an NL bat in the middle of a pennant race, but you'd be crazy not to consider it. The problem is that Ramirez has actually looked pretty good the last 2-3 weeks. And that would surely mean they're trading half the minor league system. Most importantly, does Tulo really want to play for the Sox? Does he have the right to refuse a trade to the Sox...do we know the list of protected teams he can't be traded to?

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 09:17 PM) Is this post serious? Actually, I should merely ask why Tyler Flowers is calling 10 consecutive cutters against DeAza when a single well-executed knuckle curve will wipe him out. http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/pitching/_/sort/blownSaves He's still tied for the major league lead in blown saves. That doesn't mean we're better off with Addison Reed, but he hasn't been the same pitcher he was the first two months of the season, either. My personal belief is he's getting more work in Chicago because there's no Betances/Miller to protect him, and that he's losing some of the crispness and velocity from his cutter. And, for whatever reason, he's become more reluctant to throw knuckle curves (blocking pitches isn't one of Tyler's strengths). At $12-13 million, you're paying a closer elite money...you expect elite results. I counted 9 relievers just on that first page with higher WAR numbers.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 09:12 PM) This is our year. Getting to the playoffs this year would be even crazier than 1983's improbable 2nd half run in the AL West.