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I still don't quite get why they PH Rollins late in the game for Sands...when there was basically zero chance for Rollins to go deep against Herrera. Head scratcher. It's not like Rollins was going to be able to steal off Perez, anyway, had he reached.

Rain should be ending in Boston around 2 p.m. Looks promising for them to get the game in at some point. Otherwise, they should let Johnson start against Salazar and put all their effort/s into gaining a split.

The White Sox are in a terrible position to get a multi-billion dollar t.v. deal at the moment. Obviously, it's three years in the future, but the White Sox are going to be lucky to get something in the same vicinity as the ROOT Sports deal for the Mariners in Seattle. Nobody knows how long the bubble will last with these deals, for one thing. There's lots of concern about the economy going into a period of flat/lower growth, higher interest rates, less corporate profits, credit/loans much harder to come by. Houston had all kinds of problems. Or look at LA, where they overbid by so much and tried to pass the costs onto consumers and none of the service providers were willing to go for it, with so many non-sports fans already cutting the cord (the last time a month or so ago there were attempted re-negotiations they rejected a 30-35% discount from the prior asking price). Point #2 is the Cubs are getting 80% of the attention and that means the lion's share of the marketing/advertising dollars in Chicago. Unless something changes dramatically in that dynamic (the Cubs' current young core) it doesn't make any sense to project a huge tv contract for the White Sox. Where's the profit going to come by paying the White Sox $120 million per season when they haven't made the playoffs (potentially) in over a decade at/by that time? We are well aware how bad the tv and radio ratings have been the last couple of years, in the bottom 3 of the major leagues, if not #30. This assumption that the new tv rights deal is going to "save" the White Sox somehow is pretty ludicrous unless they dramatically change the way they evaluate and procure talent.

They did trade Reed and Santos, fwiw. Devenski to the Astros for Myers. As far as other competitors for Frazier, the Indians were very interested, as they didn't have a solution at that position coming into the year. Right now, they're using Uribe.

They did trade Reed and Santos, fwiw. Devenski to the Astros for Myers. As far as other competitors for Frazier, the Indians were very interested, as they didn't have a solution at that position coming into the year. Right now, they're using Uribe. As far as the 2005-06 teams go, a lot of players were never the same...Iguchi, Politte, Hermanson, Contreras after he got injured in May of 2006, Pods just never got back his aggressiveness on the basepaths, Crede and Jenks eventually fell apart physically. But yeah, they calculated wrong on Anderson vs. Young in CF, Javy became more a "big" game headache, you could name about 25 things. Freddy Garcia and Garland eventually started to lose their effectiveness as well. It was a veteran team, and all those players peaked, with just a few exceptions. So many what ifs...if Borchard became the player he was projected to be, or Josh Fields, just one of those guys making it would have made a huge difference, and they never would have had to trade for Thome. Of course, we don't know how long Rowand would have lasted in a White Sox uniform before he was permanently injured with his reckless style of play.

Well, as far as the Thompson trade goes, it might as been as much about the Dodgers believing he would be happier in his home state and closer to his brother. Plus, it's more beneficial for their marketing (which doesn't need so much help, except for the tv viewership issues) for him to play in SoCal. He's also very good friends with Nolan Arenado, who makes his home in the NL West. That elevated comfort level has to be a significant part of his success. If you realistically look at it, with Pederson, Van Slyke, Puig, Crawford, Hernandez (can play everywhere) and Ethier, at the time of the deal....he seemed quite superfluous (even more than Micah). Now with Ethier injured and Puig/Crawford struggling, he's become vitally important. 930 OPS with 7 homers and 19 RBI's in only 88 AB's is pretty darned impressive. So far, he's actually raised the OPS he put up with the Sox, which was heavily inflated by a hot streak for 3 weeks or so in the beginning. It is a bit frustrating we haven't even come close to producing even an 800 OPS guy since Beckham's 2009 season and now we have Carter at 893 and Trayce well over 900. Marcus Semien also has 10 homers and a 742 playing half his games at 0.C0. 7 of Semien's homers have come in that park, where there aren't any cheapie homers, especially at night when it's cold and crisp. It would have been awesomely exciting to see a Sox line-up with Thompson, Eaton, Avi Garcia, Semien, Tim Anderson, Micah Johnson/Saladino/Sanchez and Carter take the field together as a unit. Well, MAYBE not Avi.

The Jose Paniagua game in 2003 (even though they barely held on in the end and actually won) was the turning point for sure in that season with the Twins...along with the Burke/Torii Hunter takedown. 2010, Thome's homer off Matt Thornton. 2005, Sizemore dropping that ball in KC and Riske giving up the homer to Crede

QUOTE (SpankyEaton @ May 21, 2016 -> 06:47 PM) The only players that appeal to me are: Kenley Jansen Gio Gonzalez Carlos Santana Josh Reddick Colby Rasmus Ian Desmond Matt Wieters Wilson Ramos I don't know much about the minor league system that we have but I hope that at least one or two of the guys you've mentioned can come in and contribute. I don't regret trading Thompson to get Frazier either - they needed smeone to play third that didn't suck. Who knows what will happen, I just hope they draft better, play better and get better overall. Otherwise, we'll have to hope they sell the team when JR passes. Ramos might be the only one (along with Jansen) you can get for less than $50 million on a 3 year contract. With Robertson's presence for another two seasons, hard to imagine they'd invest another $10-12 million per season on a reliever with all the other positional holes. Santana probably will have his option picked up for 2017, especially if the Indians make the post-season. Bringing back Gio a 3rd time would be pretty humorous...and result in a Shark-like season in the AL. It does go to show how hard it is to find catching solutions that are not just band-aids. Even someone like Francisco Cervelli is earning over $10 million per season.

Braun would take Cabrera's place sometimes and Avi's place sometimes at DH. I don't see the White Sox taking on that contract though, especially adding another former PEDs guy to go along with Melky. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/03/2016...ree-agents.html It's a HORRIFIC market coming up, especially for outfielders and pitchers. If there's one certainty about their current predicament, it's that offseason FA fixes won't do it...and the farm system, almost 2 months in, is bereft of new prospects who can contribute for next year in Chicago. Unless you're confident in Nicky Delmonico and Danny Hayes (obviously there's Anderson, maybe Fulmer or Danish). And about half of that $23 million is getting eaten up by automatic raises/salary escalators...not to mention arbitration for guys like Avi, Lawrie and Abreu, assuming they're all still with the club. Frazier will be more expensive, too.

Dragan The Last Fire-Bender And Definitely Not Chief Bender? That kid has Celtics/Stevens written all over him.

Nicky Delmonico will save the day (or not)! I guess Tyler Danish is looking like he MIGHT be a legit prospect again, although he still seems to be slated more for the pen. Last year was a lot more fun to keep track of on the prospects front when Montas started to go on his tear.

Yeah, you'd hope Fulmer would get himself straightened out but he's having enough issues you just wonder if our recent run of success with pitching can continue forever...I'm sure he'll be fine in the end, and there's no reason to talk about him being a reliever (for now), but dang. Between him and Engel, taking some definite steps back on progression tracks this year. May hasn't shown that he's much more than a 4th/5th outfielder, either. Trey's muddling along with a 675ish OPS.

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ May 21, 2016 -> 01:54 PM) A day off is needed Those offdays on Thursday and Monday seemingly made things worse, except giving the bullpen some rest. But yeah, four games in 3 days against the Indians, then 4 in KC (where we actually are much better than at home), then visiting NY and we also never tend to play well in DET, either. Brutal. Erik Johnson might be forced to take one on the chin MON to preserve the pen.

Sale/Q/Eaton/Robertson/Frazier for...? I would have included Rodon (just to pacify Boras) but his value is down a bit for now.

2012 was fun until that 4-11 finish. It was totally unexpected. 11 rookie pitchers. Q became a stud from out of nowhere. For 2-3 weeks, Youkilis looked like he had rediscovered the fountain of youth. Breath of fresh air with Ozzie's drama gone. Wonder if Greg backed up his talk by betting his house on the Royals these first two games? That would have been ballsy. Ventura/Rodon would have been the most logical one entering the series to wager on.

I blame this loss on the curse of the // // // in the opening post. Looks too weird. Bad omen. Mariners, Red Sox and Orioles all out in front of us now.

QUOTE (Baron @ May 21, 2016 -> 03:24 PM) You dont blow the front office apart now. You see what they do during the deadline. You fire Robin and elevate Anderson for now. See what that does. You acquire players during the deadline. See if that helps. If none of that works then you fire the front office and begin the rebuild. But they should explore all those other avenues first. Saladino's doing just fine. The biggest problem isn't SS or even the 5th starter at the moment, or the bullpen. It's Jose Abreu, first and foremost. Without him being at least his 2015 version, forget about it. Then you have a long list...Jackson, Lawrie, Avi Garcia, the catchers. I think Hahn actually should be fired if they push Tim Anderson up before he's ready to try to "save" this season. Not with that walk rate.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ May 21, 2016 -> 03:22 PM) Typical White Sox garbage. How many days until the Bears open training camp? Mark Is anyone really excited about the Bears this year?

Feel bad for all the former White Sox greats who had "Homecoming Weekend" and One Dog, Black Jack, Rock Raines and Roberto Hernandez have to watch this meltdown...then go out to dinner and pick up Farmer and DJ's checks? Depressing...4 against CLE, 4 against KC, then the Mets and Tigers. FUN FUN FUN.

Great, now 8-23 against the Royals in their last 31 games at USCF. Red Sox up 4-0, so still probably up 1 1/2 on the Indians and now just 2 1/2 to the Royals. Tigers will be 4 1/2 or 5 1/2.

Talk about going out with a whimper in this game after the bases-loaded fiasco...can they at least get a baserunner on? Usually Davis puts a runner or two on, despite his 25/26 saves coming into the blown one against the Braves last Sunday. This year...just three hits surrendered in his last 12 outings and simply hadn't been given enough opportunities to pitch. White Sox with runners on base every inning in this game except for the 8th. Eaton has a shot at least. Give 'em a thrill.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 21, 2016 -> 03:09 PM) Since I was feeling curious, I checked Rollins' career numbers against Soria. 1 for 1 with a 2B, probably not a major factor in the decision. Avi was 1 for 7 with a 2B and a K, again probably not something that stood out to the decisionmakers. With that said, Avi's numbers over the past week/2 weeks are not so good while Rollins's are...okay, a tick better than his season averages. With that said, Rollins's struggles against RHP vs LHP is not something that has been consistent over his career, so I'm not sure how much I would be thinking about it Even then, Sands has been hotter and much more likely to homer against Soria than Rollins... Rollins would be the better bet to get a steal, but NOT against Salvy Perez.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 21, 2016 -> 03:06 PM) Not for me. Still can't put together an offense and the farm system is very mediocre. The Abreu deal no longer even looks like a sure thing (let's hope he is injured or something is physically bothering his swing in the lower body), and the promised Latin American talent infusion is still years away from paying off with any tangible results. Haven't heard much about Marco Paddy recently, either. His biggest accomplishment has been the three extensions for Q/Sale/Eaton.

Whit "Zobrist-Lite" Merrifield? The Crash Davis of the minors? Well, not quite...but he's never been close to a top prospect. 2,632 minor league at-bats. Dyson finally retired.

Hahn deserves another year...? He definitely doesn't deserve a shot at rebuilding this team if they don't make the playoffs in 2016/17.