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Interesting she's pulling the desperation race card out with Sanders, who seems more interested in economic equality than racial equality...perception-wise at least. That and his mostly white home state has been turned into he doesn't understand the needs of minorities. That's rich considering Bill's shenanigans coming into the South Carolina primary against Obama. She probably can't lose to Sanders or Biden, but both can damage her for the general election. The media and those two guys aren't going to just allow her to coast to the nomination.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 09:34 PM) Just responding to some of the posts I read here tonight: "Robin Ventura's managerial career is over in two months." My response is I wouldn't bet the house on that. Robin is still very well liked by JR and I don't need to explain how much that counts in the organization. Plus he's under contract through next year. JR does not like to pay people not to manage. And of course if the Sox fired Robin that would make Kenny look bad. He hired him and had to talk him into it. This organization does not like to admit mistakes. "I'd still like Leyland or LaRussa. If they won't do it, Piniella. Of course I'd love Ozzie, but his mouth ruined possibilities of that." Leyland is 73 he's not coming back. Tony is already turning the D-backs around as president. Piniella is also older and has no desire to return. As far as Ozzie, he quit on the team in 2011, b****ed and moaned about his salary and contract. Insulted the fan base numerous times (remember his comments about the fans not liking his lineups? Or how about the infamous "pissing on statues" comment?) If Ozzie was the last manager on Earth, I'd say no thanks. As far as going 7-1 right before the trading deadline all I can say is that's typical White Sox luck if you look at the history of the franchise. Finally some were asking for a Micah Johnson return. He's currently on the DL (yet again) at Charlotte with left hamstring issues if I remember right. That marks the second straight year he's had leg issues. Running is his game...if he can't run basically he's useless. Could just be an unlucky guy who can not stay healthy. Mark If you can't count on Johnson (second consecutive year with second half hamstring issues and he hasn't run nearly as much as 2013), then you've got 3b, 2b, rf and c that need to be upgraded assuming they'll stick with LaRoche and Ramirez. You have Quintana and Sale as your main trade chips and are looking at a loss of roughly 4000-4500 per game season tickets...going off the fact they were up about 2000 over 2014. Not a great position to be in...and then trading Montas or Tim Anderson would look like they were abandoning the youth movement again (not to mention holding onto them at the deadline). Maybe you can live with one of Saladino and Sanchez but probably not both in the long-term. Let's just say we won't sell any ticket packages with a projected line-up having both of them starting in 2016.

Fwiw, Chris Bassitt has a shutout going against the Orioles tonight. 6.2 ip, 4 h, 2 bb, 6 k....2.66 era on the season

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 09:07 PM) I can't help but marvel in it a bit. It's really incredible what they have done there. They look set up to win for a LONG time. They're a wild card team and their organizational goal is still to develop talent. They're sticking to their plan. Rick Hahn and Kenny Williams (if not them, Jerry Reinsdorf) need to wake up. Their way of doing things is over. Buying free agent talent and failing at drafting positional talent is not a roadmap for long term success. Make no mistake, I'm a White Sox fan, but I want to see the Cubs do well. They have little to do with "our guys" and the White Sox are just so infuriating at the moment. Not to mention Castro, Baez, Soler, Rondon, Gleyber Torres, Almora, Eloy Jimenez...doing a much better job with Hispanic/Latin American players as well. Essentially we've been shut out of 1/3rd of the talent market...with the only exceptions Alexei and Abreu. Quintana and Garcia came from other organizations. I guess we can claim Carlos Sanchez, too.

Only the hapless Braves and White Sox below 24,000 tonight in attendance.... White Sox with 18,499 (bump up by 2000 from last night partly due to Sale/Archer?) Atlanta 18411 Would the attendance really be worse if we'd dealt Samardzija? Det 35039 Pitt 34993 Phil 28733 Cincy 25969 Wash 26112 (that's disappointing for them in a close playoff race) Nyy 48522 Tor 26504 Miami 23822

This game got out of hand so quickly the only slightly compelling game is in Washington. Rizzo might be available as well if the Nationals don't make the playoffs. Nationals (Escobar) just booted the final out. D Backs can tie with two outs against Papelbon.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 08:27 PM) If it were the september callups you'd expect the whole league to show that effect and that def. isn't true. Maybe the Cell does get warmer those months, but again, why would it be focused on us rather than a league wide thing? I seriously think it's a strong indication we just wear these guys down. With the bullpen they had last year, there really wasn't much choice. If you go back to 2005, with that bullpen, it would be harder to explain...on the other hand, it's not like they were terribleat all, I think they were 8 games over .500 in September after struggling through August. Maybe August weather in Chicago? Is there also a correlation with rhe Cubs' starters in August, especially when they had more day games?

QUOTE (Baron @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 08:35 PM) Alright I'm done for the night. Time to watch "They Live" Better to choose "It Follows"

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 08:01 PM) League wide, over the last 6 years, maybe there's a trend downwards of about 0.05 runs on ERA in the 2nd half but it's darn close to first half = second half. Aren't there typically more runs scored per game at uSCF from mid July to the end of September...better weather, and then you have September call-ups diluting rosters with 25-33% of the teams auditioning pitchers for the following season?

The least they could have done was get Parra. O's will be tied with Jays and both one game clear of the Twins if they win tonight. In the end, it probably wouldn't have been enough with the strikeout game stretch clearly having taken too much out of Sale.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 07:48 PM) Problem is if you brought Dombrowski in with kenny still there, how much is Kenny going to have a say in things. Kenny needs to go to blue jays and let hahn or someone else actually take control I would get rid of both and let DD start from scratch.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 07:47 PM) Let him face the Cubs!! Erik Johnson will end up giving up 6-7 runs as Sale takes an extended rest. Cubs make playoffs by one game, lol.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 07:44 PM) It wasn't as if we were all on board for selling, or buying; with as many active members as post here you'd understand opinions differ. But not doing anything.......was pathetic and to me reeked of indecisiveness. Yeah I know, we'll never know the packages offered for Shark; but not selling him is looking to be a terrible move NOW, not even a week past the deadline. How is it going to looks months/years from now? SoxTalk might not exist in 5-6 years now the rate this franchise is going (and we know what if anything comes of that pick)...might even have a new team name.

Offspeed pitch to Mahtook from Robertson last night pretty much ended the season...and the disastrous bottom of the 9th.

Sale's job is to back up home. It's like he gave up on this game when he figured out the Sox offense couldn't score 3 against Archer. Officially a throwing error on Eaton. DJ says even with a day game he would force them to do a morning workout focused on cutoffs/relays.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 07:31 PM) The issue is we don't know how much of the decision making is squarely on hahn vs how much influence kw has. I would like to see kw go and Hahn by himself to see what he can actually do. I think alot of the scouting department and player development Is still from kw era. Maybe if kw is gone hahn could put better people into those areas. I would take Dombrowski in a hearbeat over either one. More stellar Sox defense...Sale wasn't backing up or in the right position, should have been backing up Flowers.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 02:07 PM) I agree. It's better than throwing Avisail Garcia to the wolves AGAIN, and then when he goes 0-4 with the golden sombrero, we can b**** about Robin's managerial skills, and then go back to his lack of experience when he took the job. I tell you Stone Pony, not even LaRussa, Cox or Torre could win with Thompson, Flowers, Sanchez and Saladino in their starting line-ups. Just wait until Robin gets his team in there, they'll really start to take off.

It's not like nobody saw this coming. Toronto's blowing past the Twins already. The schedule this month was a trainwreck appoaching...just didn't expect Sale to take two losses in the middle of it. But we also knew Archer was going to be tough. Hitters guessing on fastballs in...Chris/Tyler are going to have to make some slight adjustments in strategy.

Plus, the villainess would have been a perfect foil for Sean Connery with those razor sharp blades back in the day.

QUOTE (shipps @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 02:48 PM) Tigers are in even more trouble now that he is leaving, thanks. Especially after he gives his son a $75 million KW nepotism contract to set up his family for life, haha.

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tige...avila/31121309/ The thread title should be released from his contract, like Ozzie in 2011. He wasn't under contract for 2016. Not fired...if he was really fired, Avila would have been the one making all the deadline trades.

White Sox general manager Ken Harrelson fired top aide Dave Dombrowski Thursday, citing a ``difference in thinking and in philosophy.`` Dombrowski, 29, is a native Chicagoan who was hired by former general manager Roland Hemond, the man Harrelson replaced. Dombrowski held the post of vice president of baseball operations. ``Roland Hemond is a good baseball man, and Dave Dombrowski is a good baseball man who grew up under Roland,`` said Harrelson. [/b]``This is not to say that I`m right or that Roland or David is wrong. We`re just different.`` Dombrowski said that his overall baseball philosophy and Harrelson`s differed ``at the major-league level, the minor-league level, and our ideas about handling young players. We differed and grew apart.`` http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1986-06...ball-operations June 6, 1986

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 04:18 PM) To put some numbers on this I went to FG and sorted for right fielders. Out of qualified RF there are a couple guys who have an RC+ below 100 (so below average RF) who are putting up positive WAR numbers due to defense. Gregory Polanco has played basically the full season or close to it, has been worth 1 fWAR, has most of his value from defense and being a strong baserunner. He's put up a .678 OPS so far on the year. TT could be a better defender than him, but the 11/16 stolen bases this year at Charlotte suggests to me he won't be as valuable of a baserunner, at least to start, and that's without me taking any deserved shots at the coaching staff for the quality of baserunning in this org. If TT is a better defender than Polanco, over a full season, I think that's the OPS range we need to talk about for him to be a decent enough player in right field where we stick him at the bottom of the order and let him catch the ball. Guessing somewhere around .650 OPS might be the ~0 fWAR crossover, give or take a decent amount on each side since this is an educated guess game for now. Interestingly, those rough offensive numbers don't change all that much if he spends a fair amount of time in CF. Brian Anderson would have been perceived as more valuable as well.....but 2005-2008 was still the height of the peds run. Of course, an outfield of Melky, Eaton and Anderson wouldn't exactly constitute a league powerhouse, exactly.

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 03:15 PM) Just going to annotate these SP FAs with some numbers. Pitcher - 2015 WAR/2014+2015 WAR, career FIP (age in 2016 season) David Price - 3.7/9.8, 3.24 (30) Johnny Cueto - 3.1/7.7, 3.79 (30) Scott Kazmir - 2.6/5.8, 3.89 (32) Mat Latos - 1.5/3.2, 3.40 (28) Mike Leake - 1.6/3.8 4.17 (28) Jordan Zimmerman - 2.4/7.7, 3.33 (30) Yovani Gallardo - 1.6/3.3, 3.73 (30) Ian Kennedy - -0.5/3.0, 4.03 (31) Jeff Samardzija - 2.4/6.6, 3.74 (31) Brett Anderson - 1.3/2.3, 3.54 (28) (note -> last season before 2015 that he threw 100 IP was 2010) Does Samardzija really look like the worst or second worst of those groups in terms of market value? Price, Cueto, and Zimmerman are the only ones who I'd say are a lock to earn more. Let's not forget that Samardzija also has the sort of name recognition that tends to make guys money. A healthy Iwakuma is a value buy, but there's the Safeco factor. He was one of the most underrated pitchers in baseball last season and is likely to rebound next year.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 04:27 PM) The best GM in baseball? I don't think so. He is good, but there are better Until Friedman wins it all in LA, hard to say he's the best. With Mozeliak, he has been surrounded by so much front office talent, let's see where the Cardinals are in five years now that much of it has been decimated by the hacking scandal as well as other teams pilfering their best talent evaluators. Brian Sabean never gets mentioned but 3/5 World Series wins is hard to beat. Dayton Moore should be considered top five right now...Epstein, Luhnow, etc.