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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 17, 2013 -> 07:38 PM) Ravelo with a 3-4 effort with 2 doubles. Can we see a promotion to AA soon? Nope. He is placing himself into consideration for the AFL if he keeps this up for six more weeks, though.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 09:37 PM) It's an injustice of epic proportions. I quit baseball. [/greg775] Nobody watched it without Puig. It doesn't matter. [/caufield12] We'll see what ratings turn out to be. 2011 3.1 2012 3.2 (with Trout and Harper) http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2013/july/w...-star-game.html why are fewer and fewer fans watching the all-star game?

http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox-talk/w...-without-limits Talks about how his pitch count has increased by 5-6 per game, as well as his velocity and K's this season...

http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox-talk/o...-year-last-year Link to the entire Guillen article... He's definitely sounding pretty complimentary towards Ventura. Not sure how genuine it is, and how much PR "spin" it is.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle...sional-athletes what if the jaegers in pacific rim were run by pro athletes?

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 01:05 PM) I went back and read some of the online scouting reports, and you're right -- I'm not sure why I had the impression that his hit tool was better than the rest of our guys. Potential, frame and BP/scouting videos....and being LH.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 02:16 PM) I have a feeling that the Sox will not end up as one of the 3 worst, but it's not a bad thing if they do. I think they'll slide into about the 6th spot. Regardless, this exact type of scenario happened last offseason with the Red Sox. They currently have the most wins in the majors. Also, would you really consider Kendrys Morales and Carlos Beltran among the top 10-12 free agents? Top 25 or 50 perhaps, but a slightly above average 1B and an older outfielder, both of whom have had injury problems previously, don't strike me as "top 12." Honestly, if they even signed Choo - again, an extreme long shot at this moment, but we'll say they do - and nothing else, it would be considered a great offseason with a building block like that set into place. We can split the difference and say Top 25-30, for sure. As for the Red Sox, the only commonality or similarity is that they went through one long year of suffering under Valentine, just like 2013 has been for the White Sox. However, a NEW MANAGER inherited a treasure trove of offensive firepower in Ellsbury, Pedroia and David Ortiz, with Middlebrooks SEEMING like he would be there for a generation....hard to compare the White Sox when they don't have anything like the Red Sox Big 3 to compare with offensively. Next, you have Saltalamacchia, Napoli, Drew, and Victorino as the veteran "complementary" contributors....these last three being more in line with the category of players we would be similarly looking at for next year. Finally, Carp, Iglesias and Nava have all surprised/outperformed. But we don't have anything close to infield prospects like Iglesias and Bogaerts in our own system right now. If the White Sox go out and have a $125-145 million payroll coming off this season....well, history has shown you have to believe it when you see it. It also wouldn't be a surprise were they to be in the $95-110 million range, either. Just think it's hard to compare the two franchises when the White Sox will never come close to spending $150-225 million per season on a roster.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 01:47 PM) This would actually work too because if they are bad they could flip Beltran and Morales. When's the last time one of the three or four worst teams in the majors added 3 of the Top 10-12 off-season free agent targets and spent more than $30-35-40 million (combined average) on three players that were all in their 30's? The Marlins spent that money on Reyes, Bell and Buehrle, but you can argue that it was 90% because they were opening up a brand new stadium behind a new manager...but Choo, Beltran and Morales would be three players all in the second half of their careers. Those would be moves more similar to what the White Sox did before 2005, although they didn't have to pay top dollar for any of those guys like Dye, AJ or Iguchi...the only big overpay was El Duque, at around $6.5 million if I remember correctly. Just find it hard to imagine Beltran coming off a World Series/playoff team and his best offer coming from the White Sox. Someone like the Giants will be more than willing to bring him back.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Jul 15, 2013 -> 12:15 AM) He was removed from the 40-man roster and cleared waivers, which means no team in baseball thought he was worth a 40-man roster spot. The Sox re-signed him after he was a free agent. The stats are great, but he's not a prospect if he cleared waivers at 26 years old. Your definition of home grown is strange and contrived IMO. Even then, Gillaspie was another team's supplemental pick, he didn't play in the minors with the Sox and he's not even that good anyway. I'll give you Axelrod and Quintana because they play in the minors with the Sox, but De Aza is another bad choice. He already lost his rookie status before coming to the Sox. Still, by my count 13 of the current 25 are home grown (I didn't count John Danks either). 13 is a good number, but given the team's record we'd probably be happier if it was closer to 8. It should probably be broken down into Sox scouting...."near the major leagues," like a Gillaspie or Ramirez or Quentin. With Quintana, his agent actively sought out the White Sox when the Yankees exposed him to minor league free agency...so let's not pat ourselves too much on the back there, the agent really did his homework on teams where there might be an opportunity in the near future and also had a good track record of working with Hispanic players (in our case, the Cubans, certainly not the DR or Venezuela, although Paddy has helped there, too). Then, finally, the Don Cooper Effect. He pitched for us in the minors for what, a month? Made maybe one start in Birmingham, or two?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 14, 2013 -> 10:44 PM) Sox blew it when they didn't hire Francona. Since we didn't get him, I'd be all for keeping Robin, cause there's really nobody impactful out there. If the Rays would fire Madden, or Madden would want to move to a big market, sure. But that's not happening. Maybe if LaRussa would do it. If we can't get LaRussa, I'd say keep Robin. I don't want any current coaches off teams like Martinez. I want a proven manager with our next hire. With our talent, it's really not going to matter for a few years, unless Tito is in charge. I think Francona would have this team in the hunt probably. If Robin decides to step down, I'd immediately promote Coop and let him try. Why wouldn't the same exact argument hold for Cito Gaston? He also has two World Series titles...

QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Jul 14, 2013 -> 06:53 AM) Yeah, this applies to everyone who has ever pitched. Some more than others. It's hardly a point worth making. Or mental/anger control problems. See Zambrano, Carlos.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 14, 2013 -> 11:43 PM) The jury's in!!! Pheg-mania!!! Have at it, lol. It is a bit telling when they most exciting thing about watching the White Sox is hoping Josh can hit .260 or above.

If the White Sox minor league system/Bell/Lauman had some kind of track record of success...with ANY position players...in terms of taking them from point A to point B, then he (Hawkins) wouldn't be getting hammered as hard as he has been. For example, if he was in the middle of the Cardinals' system right now. All they can claim is Beckham (in the minors less than a year), Alexei and Viciedo, and all three of those guys were atypical situations. And the majority would certainly argue that Gordon and Dayan have disappointed. The jury's still out on Phegley, of course. But Flowers, so far, has also turned into a huge black hole in the line-up, offensively, defensively and, most importantly, from a leadership standpoint.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Jul 14, 2013 -> 07:57 PM) I would disagree regarding Semien. The most eye-catching stat in his second straight excellent offensive season is that he has 66 walks and 61 strikeouts on the year. Not bad for 22 year old middle infielder in AA (leading the league in runs). If he doesn't collapse he'll be appearing on some top 100 lists next year. Not in a million years. Sanchez had a more impressive season (for his age and level) last year and didn't come close to making it, either.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 14, 2013 -> 04:52 PM) Player of the first half in the Sox minors, and it's not even close Erik Johnson would be a clear 2nd...hopefully he can come back quickly from that groin problem and not miss a beat.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 13, 2013 -> 11:31 AM) I think a lot of people are missing the point. Some of us are not complaining about the value of the prospect we are getting in return. I could care less if it's Red Sox's 11th, 12th, or 13th best prospect, I just want someone who has good baseball skills and is a good bet of making the majors, even if they don't have the ceiling as high as Jacobs. Our minor leaguers that has the best chance of making the majors are Semien and Sanchez, guys who might be role players or average players, but have better baseball instinct and are more likely to make the majors. We don't have enough of those guys in the minors. Getting a Marco Scutaro type of player as prospect in return is a lot more ideal for us at this point. We already have enough lottery tickets, raw athletes in the system with Mitchell, Thompson, Walker, Hawkins, Zapata, I would even throw in Barnum, and now Jacobs. We will be lucky if even one of them will make it to the majors, and it would be at least several years away. I am afraid it's going to be a long rebuild that keeps on coming up short. The problem is that the Semien's and Sanchez's of the world are, in all likelihood, complementary players. They're not going to get us to the playoffs...they're bench players, like Eduardo Escobar, for example. He (Thornton) has been effective against both left-handers and right-handers for most of his career. This year, for reasons not easily explained, right-handers and hitting .320 against Thornton but lefties are batting .173.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 14, 2013 -> 04:39 PM) Disagree, as you're going to see more AAA/AAAA caliber players on the roster taking the spot of the veterans (ie: Troncoso and Purcey for Thornton) That pen is just going to make it hard to close out many close games, minus CG's from starters like Sale and Santiago.

Except we desperately need a REAL CFer. Jacobs is a corner guy, probably LF, due to his arm. Or DH. Although his OPS numbers don't exactly jump out.

Peavy 4 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 4 K's

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,6195604.story On Phegley's spleen removal surgery that turned both his baseball career and overall health around.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 13, 2013 -> 10:46 AM) Puig needs a restraining order. What about Gordon Beckham? Boers and Bernstein are always going on and on about how Gordon loves the ladies and prides himself on his conquests around town. Should he also get one? "the most high profile white sox fan, President Obama, is making me late to the park because of his motorcade..."#comeonmrpreswegotthecubs Yes, because we all know Gordon Beckham is more important, lol. He makes a higher salary, after all.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 13, 2013 -> 10:53 AM) Yes. so the Sox get Jacobs and save $2.5 million. I wish it never had to happen, but with some of the comments aboit Thornton on this board the last couple of years, I can't see how at least those people can't be satisfied. If the Sox players were worth all these top prospects, there would be no need to sell them off. Agreed, ever since the Thome bomb after him in 2010, he hasn't quite been the same pitcher. As you know, many of us have been vocal critics, so I will never complain about the return, just hope they spend the $2.25-2.5 million in savings WISELY. That means, among other things, not on DeWayne Wise. But on the future, whether it's talent or scouting/development. Heck, I wouldn't mind them spending that money on a new advertising campaign designed by an outside group to rebrand the Sox and he coming youth movement over the next 3-5 years. Just go forward, don't stand in place while others are passing you.

QUOTE (staxx @ Jul 13, 2013 -> 09:07 AM) Imagine if Rios went there and went all bad Rios. Upton/Rios in the same OF being bad, yikes. Heyward has struggled mightily for most of the season, too. Don't believe anyone but the pitching coach there will be planning on getting a contract extension anytime soon.

QUOTE (beck72 @ Jul 13, 2013 -> 09:32 AM) Ken Rosenthal said back on June 30 that Rios could be a great get for the Pirates, as they had the lowest OPS in the NL there. But Tabata would seem to be the future there. If they want to ensure themselves of not sliding back in the pack and possibly missing a WC spot, they would be wise to take Rios and Ramirez. That said, they're not the Angels/Dodgers/Giants/Yankees/Rangers/Red Sox. They can't just assume $50 milllion in contracts and "easily" give away prime prospects. I do think getting back Tabata (not Snider) and Mercer (to hold SS down for a year) would be fair. We might have to eat some salary or send another piece, like DeAza to be their 4th OF (and he has more homers than McCutchen/Marte). However, the other side of it is trading them to the big market teams that don't need to be so concerned with taking on additional payroll....we can theoretically extort them for more than the Pirates, who will drive a harder bargain.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 13, 2013 -> 06:43 AM) The defense has been a huge factor, as has injury. While I think the White Sox have good pitching, the fact is there are 8 teams in the AL that have allowed fewer runs this year and 6 that have allowed more. No one has scored fewer. Some of it is defense and some of it is injury. The Sox have had to have some really mediocre at best guys try to get some outs this year. Troncoso, Axelrod and Omogrosso all say hello, along with Heath.