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Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Tucker... Dave Stewart seems to be out of the Nashville group as he's now back with the A's as well. Short term...they're looking at something similar to the Guardians, quite limited payroll and spending. "You can find one potential roadmap in the Guardians adding a successor to their ownership group in David Blitzer. He reportedly purchased 25 to 30 percent of the team with the intent to take the reins from Paul Dolan in five years. Blitzer’s presence hasn’t changed the mode of operation in Cleveland thus far, as FanGraphs estimates the Guardians’ 2025 payroll at $100 million, which would be down from $104 million last year. The White Sox front office is similarly constrained by a revenue situation currently viewed as grim, but rescue from that situation is a ways off in any scenario." If Melody Hobson (and her reported 30-40% position in shares) doesn't want to sell...and they're (Hobson/Ishbias) racing each other for controlling status after JR dies...well, that would be an intriguing twist but highly unlikely. United Wholesale Mortgage stories are making Ishbias look like Steve Mnuchin on steroids…leave it to the Sox to end up with even worse owners lol. https://www.reddit.com/r/IshbiasItchUWM/ Mat's Menagerie- Where myself and others expose Mat's holdings, corporate structure, investors, and other things. The Enablers- Research on the people that support Mat and who he protects. This will all roll out as much as time allows, however this effort has expanded considerably (thanks nameless ones). So don't worry Stans, I'm still churning out your precious TPS reports and not spending "all my time on this". Rules- Not many. Free Debate and discussions. Both are things UWM and Mat hate. Fire up whatever topic you want within reason. Keep it mostly civil and legal. No hate or violence. I'll shoot you a message if something is a tad out of line. Bans for the obvious shills, clowns and others as appropriate. Hell, if you're a stan or UWM account, cmon in and chat. But you guys never want to talk to me when I reach out. Sad face.
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Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6152097/2025/02/21/justin-ishbia-out-minnesota-twins-sale/ The one sticking point thus far — along with the need for league approval whenever the deal is ready — as Scott Reifert responded to Greenberg — that the deal will allow Ishbia to take control of the team at some point by buying the shares of longtime owner Jerry Reinsdorf and other partners” — is also referenced in Dan Hayes’ corresponding article about what this means for the Twins. Whether there is truly a dispute about long-term implications or the White Sox merely wish to announce the transition on their own terms, the Reinsdorf family had been taking a growing ownership stake of the team as recently as 2021. https://soxmachine.com/2025/02/justin-ishbia-in-line-to-buy-twins-increasing-minority-stake-in-white-sox-instead/
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Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
You're looking at let's say $75-100 million in long term capital gains taxes on his reported 15-20% share. I valued those controlling shares at $500 million....putting the actual purchase price at around $2.3 billion...which is a $300-500 million premium over what the team's actually worth with their diminished media rights and cloudy future stadium resolution factored in. If we're holding up the sale on that relatively paltry amount in taxes...the Ishbias won't want to wait 3-5 more years to get control. and will make a bigger bid to cover the difference. Plus they've already watched the sale price of the TWolves go in the wrong direction for Glen Taylor to such a degree (and so quickly) that he tried to scuttle his deal with ARod and Lore to no avail.
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Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
This is Sparta!!! Don't like MSU...just dislike Hahn and now Getz even more. Plus Spartans fit blue collar lunch pail mddle class ethos/stereotype of team much better than Wolverines.
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Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Can SoxTalk get an interview with Melody Hobson?...at least she would be able to clearly and analytically provide some clarification of where things stand.
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Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Not Boyer...his mouthpiece Reifert. White Sox VP of communications Scott Reifert pushed back against that notion. “White Sox limited partners have received an offer from a third party to purchase their shares in the team, providing liquidity for the limited partners on their long-term investment in the club,” he told Greenberg. “This offer to limited partners has no impact on the leadership or operations of the Chicago White Sox and does not provide a path to control.”
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Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
In 2023, the Ishbia brothers bought a majority stake in the NBA's Phoenix Suns and WNBA's Phoenix Mercury in a deal that valued the teams at a record $4 billion. Justin serves as alternate governor of the Suns, Mercury and Major League Soccer's Nashville SC, in which he owns a minority stake Justin individually worth over $5 billion. https://www.forbes.com/profile/justin-ishbia/
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Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Does this mean we can dump Clevinger now lol?
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Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6150455/2025/02/21/white-sox-twins-justin-ishbia-jerry-reinsdorf/ Twins' fans panicking a bit. ARod and partner deal will now take over the Wolves with Glen Taylor pivoting to baseball? NBA Board of Governors still has to approve A-Rod/Lore for ownership in MN...then 84 year old Taylor having the patience with a baseball team that can't really turn on a dime??? Ofc the Bradley Beal deal in Phoenix is already a major black mark against Ishbia.
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Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Now the biggest question after a sale has to be the ongoing stadium issue....
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Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Melody Hobson/Lucas share close to 35-40%???
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Off-Season Pass the Time Catch-All
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/02/poll-will-the-red-sox-extend-garrett-crochet-this-spring.html 65% think Crochet/Red Sox extension isn't done before the season starts....
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Mike Clevinger is back lol
Hard to argue with that logic. And party opportunities uniquely available in Chicagoland. Seekingarrangement.com etc.
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Mike Clevinger is back lol
Lack of certainly about Thorpe's health?? Wilson and Perez at GRF are complete crapshoots. Even Martin and Cannon aren't close to sure things. Add it all up and you have an emergency band aid in case everything goes wrong with the rotation...along with Iriarte Adams Nastrini Carela Eder etc. Have to get to at least 50 wins...although surely 60 would be preferred but seems highly highly unlikely. 54.5-107.5 sounds about right.
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Off-Season Pass the Time Catch-All
All the ex-Padres...
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Rubenstein of O's pushes for salary cap
Oliver Wendell Holmes...remember visiting his grave site in Arlington National Cemetery.
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Sox Spring Training notes
This new "salty" version of SoxTalk is much more fun than the actual team...like Varsity Restaurant in Atlanta or Gates BBQ in KC.
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Sox Spring Training notes
Old listing habits never die...you and SSHM.
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Mike Clevinger is back lol
Tim Horton's pistacio chocolate bagel...and a tuna puff.
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Mike Clevinger is back lol
Time for more important spring talking points... “Just not as tight of shoes, because I usually tie them up pretty tight. Letting them go a little looser.” Benintendi’s shoelaces are in the best shape of their lives! Per James Fegan's spring training notes. Now we know it wasn't the wrist/hamate for the first 1 1/2 seasons of his contract.
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Mike Clevinger is back lol
Or Quintana...depending on price.
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Mike Clevinger is back lol
“Sure, it’s part of the consideration because it has been associated with Clev,” Getz said. “With that being said, we’ve been around Clev for the last couple of years. I know how he is respected with his teammates and everyone in the clubhouse. Also, we’ve learned more about the situation and we are comfortable with it.” The problem is that White Sox fans have also watched ‘Clev’ be around for the last couple years — barely in 2024 — and have seen no visible reward, whether in terms of team performance or trade value. There wasn’t a market for him when he was functional, and then he wasn’t functional, so there isn’t a reason to think that a third consecutive make-good contract will turn out any different from the first two." https://soxmachine.com/2025/02/the-white-sox-still-cant-quit-mike-clevinger/ There's also a funny line about basically losing 20 more games than the previous season for every Clevinger Year...heading for 21-141. Also, Getz is not doing himself any favors. Even if Clevinger is the All Star rep as a closer... And Fegan, as usual, still has a sense of humor about this at least... BRANDON DRURY, ANDREW BENINTENDI AND JOEY GALLO ALL SEEKING THEIR OWN BRAND OF BOUNCEBACKS Posted on February 21, 2025 | By James Fegan | 17 Comments Three players over 30 are all trying to launch renaissance seasons with the White Sox, and this piece doesn’t even mention Mike Clevinger!
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Official NBA 25-26 Thread
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/43924307/inside-fallout-dallas-mavericks-luka-doncic-trade-los-angeles-lakers
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Mike Clevinger is back lol
I can't really help it if you don't want to devote time to anything besides your ridiculous self-righteous crusade against women...or generally accusing them of being groupies/gold-diggers. That's a YOU issue.
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Off-Season Pass the Time Catch-All
https://www.mlb.com/news/seattle-t-mobile-park-tough-hitters-park-analysis Who would have thought higher gravitational pull in Seattle than Miami is suppressing hitters (like Josh Rojasj?