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Kind of like how Hahn took credit for Tatis signing one of the biggest extensions in history with SD, which would now seem just like an average upper tier salary for LA. So we are excellent at finding or developing talent for other organizations at least. Crochet and Robert will join a LONG list of names from Sox lore.

https://legacy.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/nl-west/los-angeles-dodgers/ 7 contracts currently on the books for $74 million or more. Just eyeballing it...almost $2 billion in contracts for 7 biggest deals, and that's with Kershaw and Buehler off the books.

Based on Sox history...none of those last four players are even around in three years. Why would we expect non top prospects to suddenly develop under Getz when one of the best prospect groups in recent years crashed and burned? If one does miraculously become anything close to Crochet or Robert...the will to give them an extension won't be there.

Why would we want Bohm when we already have Ramos/Vargas?

https://www.mlb.com/news/2024-2025-mlb-free-agents-rebound-candidates?partnerId=it-20241129-11866364-mlb-1-B&utm_id=it-20241129-11866364-mlb-1-B&lctg=34656683 Even if they signed all five of these guys...well, we all know they likely won't even sign one of them.

But nothing close to sustainable was built in exchange for a decade of one of the worst overall records in baseball. We’ve gone from mid tier to 29th in revenues…unable to even compete with the likes of smaller markets like Kansas City, Minnesota, Cleveland and Detroit. And not even a single playoff series win. The attendance future looks like something from the early to mid 70s (playing some games in Milwaukee) or late 80s apocalypse, or worse, because that latter team had a future core of stars and a new stadium on the way at least.

https://sports.yahoo.com/2025-nfl-mock-draft-20-giants-take-a-qb-at-no-1-overall-and-heres-what-bears-do-with-top-10-pick-044422932.html Ashton Jeanty to the Bears too?

Kind of what the Pirates are doing with Reynolds and Hayes and perhaps Cruz eventually...although the results have been disappointing overall at 3B for such an early big $$ (for Pitt) extension. Still young and worlds of potential but the bat has been totally hit and miss. They made a similar mistake with Polanco in RF, though...instead of keeping Marte/McCutcheon in their primes.

You can't have or be a combination of Bevington/Grifol as an NFL head coach and still keep the locker room at this point...it's dead man walking.

Because Richie Zisk is the new definition of elite for Sox fans...well obviously they're not wedded to holding on to any of the players on their current active 25 man roster. Of course, that's a big part of the problem...nothing of permanence or added value other than Crochet and a handful of minor leaguers and reminiscing over 2023 Robert.

Not even Getz is that dumb...Lux and Bohm would have to excel with the Sox AND be traded at the 2024 deadline for even more prospects that undoubtedly would be at least 2-3 years away.

Remember...White Sox revenue sharing is not enough to make much of a difference despite operating like a small market team in a big media center. “My ultimate, kind of big-picture goal is that when we are done, that we're able to look back and say that was the golden era of Dodger baseball, and that is an incredibly high bar to even say that,” Friedman said. “That's where my focus is.” A week later, Friedman’s Dodgers were World Series champions for the first time in a full season since 1988. At some point in the jubilant aftermath, it surely crossed his mind that no MLB team has won back-to-back World Series since the Yankees in 1999-2000. Less than a month after raising that golden trophy, Friedman signaled that his Dodgers are determined to end that streak." yahoo.com/sports

Angels Blue Jays Cubs Dodgers Giants Mariners Yankees Mets Phillies Rangers Red Sox and perhaps St. Louis would be teams most hesitant about Manfred plan for obvious reasons. 30% of the league is at a significant competitive advantage.

And yet his overall 3.5 fWAR on the season would have exceeded the entire Sox offense...and we are picking apart all his numerous flaws here.

You're welcome! The White Sox, worst team I have ever seen, kinda deserve it.

Bobby Abreu was in his prime years with the Yankees? What next, Hideki Matsui? I think the hype over Matsumoto trumps him now... And I thought we were talking about the mid to late 90s Yankees dynasty, not 2009 as a singular year? Sheffield was more of a complimentary player like a Max Muncy by that point in his career. And Kenley Jansen likely makes the HoF, although he was nowhere close to Mo Rivera as a closer. It's going to always be hard to compare because of the shadow of steroids over that generation...Giambi later, Sheffield, rumors about Cano, etc. Will concede Mussina and Mo, though. Lets not forget the ability to add Max Scherzer Trea Turner and Manny Machado for LAD...we will keep going round and round in circles.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/rob-parker-the-dodgers-are-the-new-evil-empire-of-baseball/ar-AA1uSUv5?ocid=BingNewsSerp

But, in all fairness, as the perfect foil team, they were actually quite talented/entertaining…

The Oregon State, Rutgers or Washington State of college fb. Even that seems too complimentary.

LAD have four HoFers though...if you include Kershaw. Those Yankees' teams had Bernie Williams O'Neill Pettite and Posada as their secondary pieces.

If those teams had two other MVPs in Betts and Freeman...

https://global.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/42623978/leaks-team-meetings-losses-factors-driving-philadelphia-76ers-dreadful-start Maybe the 76ers are the White Sox with Moncada Robert Jimenez playing the roles of George Embiid and Maxey...minus the obsession with analytics.

When the result at the big league level is pretty much along the lines of a Ramos/Sosa/Vargas line...

https://www.milb.com/st-paul/news/boushley-baffles-storm-chasers-saints-take-down-minor-leagues-best-team-6-2 Maybe the Saint Paul Saints could have the 2024 White Sox a run for their money... That would have been more interesting to watch than the actual season. Or the Savannah Banana Slugs simply for entertainment/marketing/sideshows.

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/alec-bohm/21618/stats?position=3B Bohm was worth 3.5 fWAR this past season...but faded greatly. At any rate, he was the pick right before Madrigal, and he has "only" been worth 7.7 fWAR his entire Phillies' career, so let's not pretend that even if we were drafting 3rd, we would have been much better off. Obviously taking a 3B in 2018 would have seemingly been less of a priority with Moncada already in place...but then one has to consider that they drafted Madrigal top 5 with the likely intention already of moving Moncada to 3B over in 2019 (which is what actually happened at least). Let's not forget 2018 Moncada was a very "average-ish" 2B defensively and he struck out more times than anyone in baseball (especially as a RHB) and recorded a 2ish bWAR/fWAR. And Madrigal was considered an immediate "plug and play" finished product, whereas Bohm was more of a developmental/higher offensive potential but the upside/ceiling type.