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Same questions about Hahn Haber Getz ...

Back today at leadoff. Burger hitting fifth for Marlins.

Kelly Bummer Ruiz Shaw Diekman Lopez Graveman Hendriks a lot higher than $35 million, factoring in buyouts too.

Meanwhile, Hahn made both Burger and Tatis cry when he traded them. Or 2/33 under 27 players with 800+ in baseball. Still hasn't made Robert or Eloy cry lol. Yet. Then he would have 4-33....which is roughly Hahn's successful FA "hit rate" historically of 16%.

It was more when Jose Fernandez was kind of taking too many chances in his personal life and nobody tried to talk sense into him because he was The Franchise.

Worse than any 2017-19 rebuilding lineup by far. Especially in Texas in the heat of an August day game where 6+ runs are likely to be scored. Meanwhile, Burger hitting 5th for the Marlins in early getaway day game.

They're going to have to ask Hahn if he takes questions again 1) why would they waste playing time on Grandal the next two months and 2) how could fans possibly squint and see a 2024 contender here without Jimenez Burger and Robert in the lineup to provide some pop??? 3) is the strategy now to try to "beat" Colorado KC and Oak in the race to the bottom for 2024 draft position? Maybe they're deliberately trying to sabotage the Astros?

CWS Batters AVG HR RBI SB 1Anderson, TiSS .243 1 19 11 2BenintendiLF .277 2 29 12 3Vaughn1B .246 13 58 0 4Moncada3B .230 3 16 1 5GrandalC .250 8 29 0 6Thompson, TCF .155 5 14 0 7SheetsDH .214 8 26 0 8Remillard2B .280 1 13 3 9ColásRF .208 1 10

Words of wisdom from Cohen to Hahn “I said before, ‘Hope’s not a strategy,’” Cohen said, referencing a June press conference in which he hinted at his plans if the Mets failed to improve. “Now, saying that, we didn’t have any idea of what was possible at the Deadline, and we weren’t just going to do deals for the sake of doing deals. But we thought we got a great return for the people we ended up trading.”

Looking at Top Ten pitching prospects from 1998-2001 you had the biggest impact from two lowest rated/most unheralded guys in Buehrle and Fogg. Kip Wells or Garland #3. Rauch the biggest disappointment...or Ginter/Barcelo. Padres recently had a similar pile of pitching talent (starting with Gore and Patino) when their system was ranked first and traded most of it away for Musgrove Darvish Clevinger Hader etc.

Palka is a lot closer to Dan Pasqua

Avi was simply the Miguel Cabrera cheating scandal...and Eloy Jimenez-esque lackadaisical attitude. Soler it was more that some felt he moped when the Cubs werent giving him regular playing time and when he was getting hurt all the time in Chicago. Whispers around both players about work ethic when they were younger. The one interesting thing to note is that the Miami clubhouse has been one of the most Latin influenced in baseball over the last 10-15 years but the chemistry hasn't usually been brought up....rather ownership stadiums budgets Jeter. . Pretty hard to believe Renteria is the only one capable of creating a positive/fun or loose vibe when our last three managers spoke Spanish fluently.

We scored runs at least...

And they have Soler/Avi Garcia down there in Miami...who weren't exactly players with the greatest clubhouse reps in Chicago.

Probable Pitchers Toussaint RHP|#47 1 - 3|3.50 ERA 29 K Scherzer RHP|#31 9 - 4|4.01 ERA 121 K

Urias to Red Sox for example

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=300&type=1&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=14,27&filter=&players=0&startdate=2023-01-01&enddate=2023-12-31&sort=10,d&page=2_30 There are only thirty three 27-and-younger hitters with 800+ ops numbers in MLB Braves 4 Padres 3 Rangers 3 Red Sox 3 White Sox 3 Robert Burger Eloy

"In a deadline where bats were there for the taking, the Marlins overpaid. I don’t think their Jake Burger/Jake Eder swap was quite so bad, because they’re getting future years of control from Burger and Eder is a phenomenally risky prospect, but it’s a sign of the same thing that bothered me about the other trades. Sure, Burger will be around for longer than a rental, but you could plug a series of veterans into that role, and there’s no guarantee that Burger will be playable for his entire Miami tenure. The Marlins got half of the equation right – it’s time to go out and get some hitters and relievers – but then they went about it in a bizarre way." https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2023-trade-deadline-winners-and-losers/

"Jesus Sanchez singles on a pop up to left fielder Brandon Marsh. Jazz Chisholm Jr. scores. Avisail Garcia to 3rd. Jake Burger to 2nd." Ofc Covey with the loss. Except we were supposed to trade for Jazz haha.

Still think Game #3/Oct 2020 in Oakland was the beginning of the end...decided not to use Cease/Dunning and then Crochet went down.

One of those times where JR will argue fourth place can be termed a success if Cubs Cards Yankees Red Sox fans show up instead.

Burger 2/4 with another walk

https://www.mlb.com/news/ranking-the-prospects-traded-at-2023-deadline?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage Sorry, no Trayce Thompson here...

What's more embarrassing is being eliminated in the worst division in baseball in April, essentially. Right now, the Twins are just one game over .500.

They need to go to the 10 run rule after 7 the last two months to protect bullpens...