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Tim Hill, Ian Hamilton, Kahnle, Jake Cousins all contributing to Yankees' pen. Ofc Getz can't manage to put a bullpen together to save even his own life.

Who is the most famous White Sox fan in the world...and has unparalleled access to billionaires? I keep reading throughout this thread that there's nobody in the entire metro area willing to buy the team... Are you going to quit being a White Sox fan if Hobson and George Lucas somehow become majority owners when they already have a 30-40% stake? You are aware of which side of the political fence they are on...yes? It's undoubtedly a large part of why Ron is such a closet Cubs' fan. Heck...political affiliations around sports reach as deep as your team's beer of choice, for generations it was Miller Lite vs. Coors/Budweiser. Plus, the SouthSide has always been associated with blue collar and labor unions and being the underdog in the face of the opposite...unless we suddenly choose to ignore all these things.

But at least we don't sign 16 year olds! Oops.

https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20241018892/heres-how-much-better-the-wnba-did-financially-in-2024-than-in-2023 Up $140 million...still probably under selling it due to unreported merchandise sales.

Yes because of the bullpen and Contreras run of dominance, largely.

Elko or maybe Ramos if they insist on Vargas at third over second… Or Sosa. None of those three are plus gloves, either. And none of those guys are sure things to hit over 700 when DeJong and Pham were the only two to barely manage that on the team. They’re just cheaper. Not even sure about more exciting, despite relative youth on their side.

He did it with that mid-tier payroll, too. Dumped Ordonez Lee and Valentin…spreading money across all those free agents and trade acquisitions. Jenks was just a rookie and Contreras was highly subsidized by NYY. But the cost of that rotation and wear & tear would eventually drag the team down. You can’t really say it was accidental though when they were competitive in 2006 and got to the playoffs in 2008 with the injection of Alexei Ramirez, bullpen spending and a lot of the same veteran core.

https://www.atxmlb.com/why-austin Montreal Nashville Austin Portland Salt Lake City Charlotte…any other options other than Mexico or San Juan?…which both seem nearly impossible.

700 pm Gil/Gavin Williams…then Rodon/Bibee for Game 5 Sat night.

You mean 3-2 Dodgers going back to LA....? Flaherty got killed in this one. Cost himself a decent chunk of money in FA unless he pitches better in the WS. Have a feeling this game isn't quite over yet...though.

Better yet, the Obama's and Jordan working together...it's not exactly like the Cubs' ownership group is non-partisan. Cubs' fans are probably what 25-30% Dem? Sox fandom probably the same split in the opposite direction...if not moreso. Dr. Dre could probably afford the team pooling his money with Jay Z...who already has that sports agency business. Or any of them could partner with Hobson, in theory.

Not feeling a huge sense of optimism when Stewart’s supposed financial backer is his g/f, who’s a sports agent not named Jerry Maguire. “So how did Lonnie break that ceiling and find her way into the Sports Agent business? Born in Camden New Jersey and raised in Washington state, Lonnie had no initial desire to be a part of the baseball industry. At the age of 17 she married her high school sweetheart, and due to the request of the U.S. Navy, she and her new husband were relocated to San Diego. The marriage was short-lived, but they both realized they were too young to make a major life decision like marriage. “He went to work one day, and I packed my jeep up and drove to the Bay Area where my girlfriend lived because I was just done. We were both young, and we realized it just wasn't forever." Lonnie obtained a position working for a nonprofit and spent 15 years in this arena, "I loved working for nonprofits, I think it bleeds over to what I am doing now because I'm still helping families and kids. It is important to me that I am honest about what I'm doing, and that everything I do, is for the right reason." With convictions such as these, it is easy to see why Lonnie would be a success in whatever industry she tackled. While working in the nonprofit industry, she would come to meet her current husband, former Major League player and past General Manager of the Arizona Diamond Backs, Dave Stewart. "I was working for a nonprofit ‘Team Up for Youth,' and Dave was a member of the board of directors. I had been introduced when he came into the office for a board meeting, but it was just that, a business introduction." It would be some time before they had their next encounter and this one almost lost Lonnie her job. "I was given the task of emailing all of the board members to get a consensus on a project we were putting together. All of the members responded swiftly, except for Dave, he had been out of the country and didn't get back to me for several weeks." When he did call, he told Lonnie that he could not open the files she had sent, so she resent the email, and he still had a problem. "I have to admit that this irritated me and I responded in a way I probably shouldn't have." Since Dave was an admired baseball Icon, particularly in the Oakland area, after a stellar career with the Oakland A's, I rethought my response shortly after I hit send. I asked a co-worker what he thought of my email to Dave, and from his response, Lonnie knew she was in trouble. "There was a good chance I was going to lose my job, so I went into my bosses office and started the conversation by telling him how much I loved my job. I was just about to explain what happened when this same co-worker interrupted our conversation and told me in private that Dave had responded.” To Lonnie's relief, he did so with a sense of humor, and shortly after that, the two managed to find themselves in a relationship.” https://www.sdwomanmagazine.com/lonnie-murray Otoh, the email debacle described seems quite on-brand for the tech-challenged White Sox…

https://www.forbes.com/sites/philrogers/2024/10/16/dave-stewart-enters-picture-as-possible-new-owner-of-white-sox/ Stewart won 20-plus games four years in a row with Oakland in the Mark McGwire/Jose Canseco Bash Brothers era. He put together an investment group that unsuccessfully tried to purchase the Oakland Coliseum and is currently pursuing an MLB expansion team in Nashville. He and (Lonnie) Murray are also leading a group pushing for an NWSL team in Nashville.

Once again...even Tampa Bay owners are looking to ante up $700 milion in a smaller market for baseball...and that number is likely $200-300 million too low after the last two hurricanes and all the associated insurance nightmares....roof torn off, etc. And Cleveland Browns self-financed suburban dome coming in at $2.4 billion for the Haslams. Realistically looking at $1.0-$1.25 billion if they really want a modern baseball showcase and not the short-cut version....by the time this actually gets done, barring new ownership/outside investors.

Plus they have the leverage of the most successful NFL franchise/QB/Taylor Swift on their side...vs. maybe 30-35% of Bears fans being Sox fans, whatever the actual split is right now. Might even be down to 25% after 2023-2024-25. One would think we're getting a pretty good clue when the combined weight of the Bulls Blackhawks and Sox is failing to move the needle with Comcast. Basically the Dodgers got $2+ billion to lock out half their fans...whereas the Sox can't even successfully give their product away for free and make it financially viable on the advertising and marketing side. And this is now a down cycle for the Cubs as well. Can't even imagine if it was more like 2014-2020.

Embarrassing that Danks Dunn Grandal Benintendi deals will be cited as main reasons we can't ever have nice things...

"Not that the Bulls have earned much more attention from fans than the Hawks. Both teams have lost enough games to make fans question whether it’s worth dropping hundreds of dollars to go to the United Center. So now, not only is it expensive to go to a game, it’s difficult for many to watch one on TV. Combine limited access with limited winning, and you have two business operations in trouble. Perhaps the NBA’s popularity will spark an agreement before the Bulls’ season opener Wednesday. But don’t count on it. In the most remarkable turn of events, Comcast, for once, is under no pressure to appease a sports network. If it was losing enough subscribers for not carrying CHSN, it would carry CHSN. Carriage isn’t a priority until it is. After not carrying the Big Ten Network when it launched in 2007, Comcast subscriptions plummeted. The next year, BTN appeared on Xfinity systems. That might be what it takes for CHSN to appear on Comcast, unless the network bends to the company’s wishes. CHSN is in a tough spot, but it’s one they should’ve seen coming." from the previously-linked article, CS-T

Takes puffery to a new level. Merkin should have simply outsourced this to Related/78th's PR office.

https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-top-prospects-that-improved-their-stock-in-2024 Focus on Burke Pallette Nishida... Wolkow Grant Taylor No Baldwin.

"Ellch explained the vision for the ‘78’ as a 13-million square foot extension of downtown Chicago with a half mile of frontage along the river they would look to create and exponentially expand back to connect with the downtown Riverwalk. The first phase of development in creating Chicago’s next neighborhood would include two apartment buildings, food, beverage, and retail spaces, as well as parking." https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-proposed-ballpark-update Merkin puffery

Boston/NYY fell off the face of the earth...recently. And the Yankees have lost five consecutive ALCS.

A real series now with CLE thankfully. Carlos Rodon is looking at another key/deciding start. Things not looking as promising for the Mets...

This is why Elias believes you need hitting more than pitching...but you definitely need enough quality depth in the rotation to get your team to the post season in the first place. Ofc he would have looked a lot smarter had Flaherty pitcher to his potential. And even then you could turn out like the Mariners...or Padres last season.

Unless someone similar to Ricketts Musk Zuckerberg Bezos is the owner...

https://news.yahoo.com/sports/cleveland-mayor-says-browns-owners-194509830.html Browns' owners spending $2.4 billion to move to a suburban domed stadium and away from the downtown/lakefront. Haslam family. Might equal White Sox for pro sports team with bleakest future due to Watson trade...cap hits, all the personal lawsuits involved there and already having to dump key vets like Amari Cooper with the 2024 season essentially toast. And then they would have to develop yet another QB while simultaneously having to deal even more draft picks to dump Watson...similar to Broncos' fate with Brock Osweiler.