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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 08:51 PM) Some of those were absolutely laughable Bwhahahahhaaha. Uh... No. You're f***ing kidding me, Phil. Yea, sorry - thank you for playing. Keep trying. Then you suggest a one for one swap? A proven front line cheap and controllable player for an unproven minor league guy? Get outta here with that crap! I can't believe he gets paid to come up with this nonsense.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 08:33 PM) If the Sox are truly looking at tearing down, the only meaning left to this season is evaluation of everyone who has long term value. Yea - if the tear down is on - f*** it. Lose every game for the rest of 2016 for all I care. That's the preference, actually.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 08:17 PM) Some trade thoughts. Melky Cabrera to the Giants for SP Tyler Beede and SP Adalberto Mejia Todd Frazier to the Indians for SP Tristan McKenzie, SP Rob Kominsky, and 1B Nellie Rodriguez Jose Quintana and David Robertson to the Rangers for 1B Joey Gallo, 2B Jurickson Profar, CF Lewis Brinson, and RP Keone Kela Zach Duke to the O's for SS Ryan Mountcastle Chris Sale to the Red Sox for C Blake Swihart, OF Andrew Benintendi, 3B Rafael Devers, 2B Yoan Moncada, and SP Michael Kopech Thoughts? I'd like to get at least one bad ass super front line young starting pitcher for sale / q Otherwise, I'd be stoked with all that s*** coming back

QUOTE (Insp @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 08:00 PM) About how long do you guys expect this rain delay to last? They said 45 minutes to one hour from when it started

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 07:39 PM) Look at the stats. They're ugly. Very ugly. Player 1 - .203 / .257 / .350 [ 53 wRC+ ] Player 2 - .266 / .323 / .423 [ 94 wRC+ ] Player 3 - .234 / .309 / .332 [ 73 wRC+ ] Yea. Ugly but clearly one of those players has no reason to be lumped in with the others or considered as "worse on the team".

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 07:14 PM) No, that title belongs to Garcia, Navarro, or Abreu. One of these is not like the others. Give me a f***ing break.

JB f***

At least Shuck runs like a mofo on a routine grounder

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 06:36 PM) You are really counting on multiple rookies to make an impact all at the same time. That usually doesn't work out well. Yea... They'd have other assets from the other trades not spelled out, would have one or two years to evaluate the young unproven guys in the majors, and would have plenty of room in their budget to add as necessary via free agency.

And boom

Shields looks so freaking tired right now

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 06:05 PM) That is key to the whole thing. If you deal BOTH Q and Sale we are talking about filling multiple needs and adding much needed depth to thin farm system. 2019 could look something like this: CF - Benitendi RF - Eaton 2B - Moncada C - Lucroy DH - Collins 1B - Abreu 3B - Devers SS - Anderson LF - Pederson Rotation Fernandez Urias Rodon Fulmer Shields Bullpen Burdi Jones Other s*** yet to be determined Trade Q to LAD for Urias and Joc Pederson Trade Sale to Boston for Benitendi, Moncada, Devers, and 2 lower level prospects. Trade Fraizer, Melky, Robertson, Duke, Lawrie, etc for lower level prospects - a lot of pieces that will make up a bullpen. 2018 - Sign Lucroy 2019 - Sign Jose Fernandez

QUOTE (Lillian @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 05:18 PM) It is hard to imagine that they would trade both Sale and Quintana. How would they rebuild a starting rotation, with both of those arms gone? One of them does indeed make sense, if they can fill several holes, in return. Say they trade both Sale and Q. You still have Rodon, Fulmer, and Shields. You're going to get back at least one - probably two frontline SP prospects like Urias and De Leon. You're also going to get some more projectable / further off SP prospects. We've also got Burdi, Adams, and Hansen. By 2018 you're also looking at FA options. In addition to these assets, you're also looking at adding a top flight CF, 3B, and 2B. Potentially you're filling 5 or 6 holes after creating two.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 01:58 PM) Joc Pederson has major potential. Sure does - but Eaton really seems like a consistent 5 WAR player on a good contract already.

According to Batman, yes - Batman... The offer for Sale was from Boston for Moncada, Benintendi, Kopech, and Basabe. That's not enough for Sale - caped crusader.

A Dodgers friend of mine suggested Eaton for Pederson straight up. What do you guys think? I'd say no.

Uh. Yea. And I have been known to say poop from time to time.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jul 20, 2016 -> 09:37 PM) So just stop taking chances on 'those type of players' because that makes sense. I don't get that logic, I know that Dunn and LaRoche didn't work out like we hoped but that doesnt mean that the Sox should stop taking chances of left handed power hitters. "Taking a chance" is fine and dandy... Just not with someone who averages almost 250 strike outs per year.

Can the OP add a poll option of "poop" and mark me down for that? Please.

QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Jul 20, 2016 -> 08:16 PM) I know it's sacrilege to suggest trading Sale but the Sox should at least listen to teams this offseason and see if some team can blow them away with an offer. I think Sale would bring back more than Q and the Sox have Q under contract for one more year than Sale. There's an argument to be made that if the Sox can get a haul for Sale, they can be contending again by no later than the 2018 season. On a personal note, fireball pitchers always scare me too. Sooner or later they seem to get injured and personally Q seems like a safer bet to avoid that type of injury. If the Sox can get a combo of 5-6 mlb ready players and or high level prospects for Sale, it may solve a lot of their problems. Firmly aboard yer ship me captain - ARRRRHHHHHG!!!

On another note - anyone ever seen thing guys stuff?

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jul 20, 2016 -> 07:33 PM) Just so everyone has a clear idea of the value of Quintana, Cole Hamels and Jake Diekman were traded last year for 3 top 100 prospects (Thompson, Williams, and Alfaro), a MLB starting pitcher (Harrison), and a solid young MLB starter (Eickhoff). Since Q has become a full-time starter, he's been worth 2 more fWAR than Hamels and would have an extra years worth of control. That is the baseline for a Q trade. If you want to talk Sale, better be ready to push all your chips into the center of the table. Neither should be or will be cheap and the Sox are in no rush to get rid of either. +2

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 20, 2016 -> 07:18 PM) Went to the game today and it sucked to see another quality start wasted by this awful bullpen. They're doing oh so many things horribly wrong.

QUOTE (daggins @ Jul 20, 2016 -> 07:29 PM) Lets say, Sale to Rangers for... Profar Sweet Lew Brinson Luis Ortiz Ariel Jurado an A ball pitcher (the Rags have a lot) Not enough.

QUOTE (daggins @ Jul 20, 2016 -> 07:13 PM) One of these things is not like the others... Yea.... That Astros deal sucks.