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QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 03:10 PM) But aren't those all individual arguments for the same thing, ie, "I want Ozzie and KW gone"? But from different people. Who think different things.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 02:46 PM) It's not embarrassing as much as its hilarious. Like I said above, the cyclical nature of the criticism in this thread is ironic. On one hand you have someone complaining the the team doesnt build from within, on the other its people saying that the team doesnt go for it at the deadline and in the FA market. Its been a really long time since the White Sox have had such consistently aggressive leadership committed to winning. But like the saying goes, find the hottest girl in the world and I'll show you a guy who is sick of her s***. You're actually talking about several different individual people and lumping them all together into a single stream of consciousness.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 10:54 AM) No seriously, I'm quite confused here. From what I read of this conversation, it's been arguing that we're not getting mad enough at Mel Gibson's crazy remarks, and this is the liberal media's fault because they only get mad when a Conservative makes a crazy statement. I can't figure out how in the world you can possibly call Mel Gibson a liberal, and I can't figure out how Mel Gibson not getting enough press coverage for being a crazy holocaust denier is the fault of the liberals. I frankly don't care one bit about Mel Gibson, I'm just totally lost as to how this is my fault. I always thought of him as a Conservative, but in this case, I'm not trying to say that fans of his movies are all anti-semites. Should I be? I'm serious, I'm totally lost here, the argument I'm getting is: Mel Gibson isn't getting enough coverage, this is the fault of the liberals trying to cover for one of their own. What have I misread? I brought up Mel Gibson, not him. I think Mel Gibson is a conservative actually but I think most people don't actually care about his political views and/or associate him with any type of ideology so I figured he was safe for comparison.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 07:17 AM) Corporations have more rights than people in this regard. Exactly.

Corporations and unions are constitutionally protected since they're basically a form of assembly/petition. I don't like it, but at least there is something like legal logic behind it. Still, only a moron would think a corporation is literally the same thing as a person, with completely the same sets of rights, and the same role in society. A person, or even a group of people, can't influence the government anywhere near as effectively as a large entity with billions of dollars at its disposal can. There are people like that, but only a tiny handful.

This is a full-blown ass whipping.

I'm not saying they aren't good... they ARE in first place after all. But a run like the one they just had isn't exactly common.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 06:06 PM) Even past that they are 30-11 in their last 41 games. That mark is the best in all of baseball. That is one quarter of a season. You don't win that many games, over that long of a period of time, if you are a bad team. It might not answer questions about 2011, but it tells you the 2010 team has something there. Well yeah but what about the quarter of a season before that? Like night and day. You may as well be talking about 2 different teams.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 01:24 AM) My question was sincere, I'm asking what you mean. I meant that the Sox going on a 25-5 run and currently being in first place doesn't answer any deeper, macro-level questions about the overall direction of the organization, its philosophy, what we look like for 2011, what our chances are if we reach the playoffs, how we fare against our own divisional opponents, roster management, and so on. It just means this team was ridiculously hot for 6 weeks and went 25-5, so hot that they caught up and landed in first place. It doesn't tell you how good (obviously not THAT good because maintaining that level of play is impossible) or bad (obviously not bad because bad teams can't win 25 of 30 games) they are. It's not an answer to anything in itself.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 09:22 AM) So conservative ideology includes racism? Really? And Mel Gibson isn't getting a pass. He's been all over the news and everyone has an opinion on what he said/did. Where did I say that? What are you talking about? Actually you implied (intentionally or not, and using some awkward sarcasm) that some random Hollywood figure said something anti-Semitic and you're not hearing enough criticism of it so there must be kind of liberal conspiracy and I have no idea where you drew that assumption/conclusion from. I brought up Mel Gibson being in the news doing basically the same thing and taking a s***-ton of heat for it to show that doesn't make any sense. What I said has nothing to do with labeling conservative ideology as racist. The opposite actually.

Federal employees are really like any other professional type of employee, but the ones who I hate are the cocky ones who know they won't get fired and they talk to you any way they feel like it. Not ones that deal with the general public (although they exist), I mean some admin types who think that they're running your life (at a great inconvenience to themselves) because you need them to process a piece of goddamn paperwork.

Don't the inspectors come when nobody is serving food?

cha-ching. A facebook friend of mine said Danks was pitching a "gem", this was in the 3rd inning though. I asked how the hell can you have a gem in the 3rd inning?

Your mistake here is associating anti-Semitism with ideology. anyway what's a "free pass" really? Would you say Mel Gibson is getting a free pass right now? For more or less the same thing.

That really doesn't have much to do with the paragraph I wrote (neither does Kap's response, no surprise there though). There is a fundamental difference between how the "regular" media (the "liberal media" if you will, to the extent that such a thing even exists or is relevant) and the conservative media (a HUGELY successful industry that somewhat ironically relies on the people that use it not really acknowledging it exists) work.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 08:12 PM) how are those 2 things remotely similar? you don't have to have money to driver a BMW, i get that. But you don't have to be a good team to go 25-5 and overcome a 9 game deficit to be in first place? That's really not at all what I said.

*removes gun from kap's head*

QUOTE (Felix @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 07:55 PM) Definitely entertaining. Nothing groundbreaking, and a lot of the technology they use is almost certainly bulls***, but it's a fun show. No way is half the s*** on the show believable (at the end of Season 1 Danny gets recalled to active duty, and some Marine walks up to the casino in uniform and hands him a piece of paper that says he needs to report in 24 hours, and his assignment is classified, which is completely hokey in real life) and the plots where the bad guys are always caught and punished and the good guys get rewarded is cheesy. But if you don't take it seriously, which you shouldn't, it's just a lot of fun to watch. This show really, really makes me wanna go to Vegas though.

I've been watching old episodes of Las Vegas. I really like it.

Well "this team is in first place and recently went 25-5" is a pretty lazy argument and doesn't really say anything worthwhile all by itself. It would be like saying "you must be pretty well off because you drive a BMW"

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 06:23 PM) Link In the last year or so I've done a lot of reading on this subject and yeah, there just really is no equivalent anywhere of the right-wing press (and there's nothing as effective, either). It's not really just about Fox although that's the most visible thing that everybody knows. Left-wing blogs do have a tendency to be an echo chamber, you might have somebody on Slate linking to Salon or a Huffington Post article linking to a New York Times article, and only occasionally linking to a right-wing blog except to say "lol omg look how wrong these guys are" but otherwise uses mainstream sources. Right-wing blogs and info sources in general are like an entire ecosystem, they have obviously Fox News, radio, a bunch of books, a network of blogs that link to each other, places like Newsmax, an entire factory for talking heads where guys like Hannity, Beck, etc. come from, and so on. All this is just as "mainstream" as any media is today, because the truth is it's fractured and people just self-select where they want their news from anymore so the question of "bias" is really kind of irrelevant. They have as much ability to influence/change the news cycle as any enemy-of-Richard-Nixon media cartel in the 70s ever did. And on the left? There's what, MSNBC which really only has Fox-style liberal commentary in its prime time lineup with Olbermann and Maddow, but is maybe half as successful, and that's about it? Someone name me an openly liberal commentator and I can probably name 3 conservative media figures, that are more successful to boot. So, yeah, anyone who writes it off as a "both sides" thing doesn't really know what they're talking about and can be dismissed out of hand.

The whole "bombshell" of the Afghanistan leaks was pretty underwhelming, a very "dog bites man" story. Anyone who's read newspapers in the past 3 years probably already knew all of that. I think it's funny that the press is acting like they uncovered some huge secret, the foreign press is acting like they blew the lid off the American propaganda machine, etc. Truthfully, everything in there has been admitted by the U.S. government (either this administration or the previous one) and the current strategy is made to reflect a lot of that.

There aren't different rules for mods and admins. FYI.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 06:38 PM) It's f***ing summer, lost. You act like it never happened before. Yeah that's kind of my point. In January, in the northern half of the United States, it gets cold. Not even record cold, but just cold. These temps have been record highs. It's actually been raining but you can hardly tell because it all evaporates so fast.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 06:35 PM) Link I dunno. I was there and the only thing I can remember is explosions every 5 minutes all night long, being mortared, and something that probably used to be a city but was 99% rubble.