ChiliIrishHammock24

Sox trade/release Pierre. I know the joke is that Pierre is on this team for life and blah blah blah, but you have to think AT SOME POINT Kenny is just going to say "The f*** with it" and trade Pierre for either cash, or some low-a fodder. Hell, even if he has to release him. You have got to think it's coming. Because I don't see any other scenario other than Rios getting traded, and I think that's a lot less likely.

This thread was really something we need. I don't think any of us had any idea about what was going on until this. Thanks for the eye-opener.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 18, 2011 -> 12:19 AM) What are we, back to 6 games below .500 again? 5 I think. Still 5.5 GB in the division. Thank god this division is awful.

Giving another guy his 1st CG of the year? s***. This is like the 5th guy.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 11:53 PM) Can't hit a 3 run hr with the bases empty. Which is what I just said "ok" at the end. I thought about being mad, but then I realized it really does not even matter. It's not like Dunn is hitting .250 with 15-16 HR.

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 11:50 PM) So what happens next year.. does Sale make a direct jump into the starting rotation? Ha, only if we want to shut him down after 140 innings, while he gets hammered in the meantime. I got grilled for saying Sale NEEDED to be starting in the minors THIS YEAR, but alas, I was in the minority.

Teahen instead of Dunn. Uhmm.....ok.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 11:49 PM) Kudos to Greg to the "ptac-like excellence" line. I'm still not convinced Hudson is as good as he looks against us, because we absolutely suck offensively right now. Kris Honel or Lance Broadway could probably beat us 3-4/10 games. I don't think he is either. Wait until he faces a real AL offense.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 11:46 PM) Sale clearly should have started the year at AAA. When can I start the "I told ya so" on the Sale starting thing? Because I already got my Humber "I told ya so" in my pocket.

Good thing Ozzie didn't let Jackson face Johnson, what with his 0-3 and 3 Ks against him.

Man, Hudson really is a pretty good hitter.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 11:37 PM) is that 2 runs in 3 days? That's 2 runs this week.

First 2 IP pitched = 51 pitches Next 4 1/3 IP pitched = 50 pitches.

Oh man, this team needs Viciedo so bad that it's not even funny.

THAT'S HOW YOU GET A 16,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE DOWN THE STREET!

Yeah Paulie!

Wow, Montero was about 20 feet short of 1B by the time that DP was turned. s***.

Twins about to be 8 GB. Weren't they just like 16 GB 2 weeks ago?

That was a dirty slider. Unfortunately he was saving it for Hudson.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 10:50 PM) Typical 1 hit in 4 innings but Walker still gets paid the 15th and 30th. Or as Lupe would say, "1st and 15th".

It's LuIS, Stone, not Louie. Lou-ees.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 10:46 PM) I would rather him just not show up to the ballpark altogether. This.

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 10:35 PM) how come no one blames Coop for the EJ trade, I pretty sure Kenny pulled the trigger cuz of Coop. I think he pulled the trigger because of Rizzo's lies, but took the risk because Coop wanted his arm to fix. So yeah, good point, I wonder where Coop has been with this. Jackson was so awesome the first month or so we had him, then he just got so mediocre all the sudden.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 10:34 PM) Really, this is just saying that te metric overrates the strikeouts. Jackson has been our 2nd worst starter. And it takes pitcher-independant variables in to consideration. Edwin has been rather unlucky this year, which Humber has been rather lucky. Edwin's xFIP is 3.54. Humber's is 3.98. Just to be clear, I am not saying EJax is better than Humber, because I'd much rather have Humber right now, but I'm just trying to calm all those people down who are clearly overreacting about Jackson right now, especially that ridiculous post about not trading Lucas Harrell for Jackson straight up. People need to back off some.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 10:31 PM) That is pro-rated though. What do you mean? WAR is a counting stat, so since the $ is tied to the worth of 1 WAR, then wouldn't the $ be a counting stat as well?