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100 days until Peavy beats Darvish.

The 7/31/91 game is being replayed on CSN today at 3:00.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 22, 2011 -> 04:32 PM) During the KW years, the Sox have won bidding on two players: Ramirez and Viciedo. Seems to me those have both worked out pretty well so far. It is always a gamble, but your fear seems to have no roots in reality. I guess my point is this guy has been hyped a lot before the bidding started. If he were that great, then the Phillies and Yankees would be forking over the cash. It sounds as if the Yankees don't have much interest, or won't bid a lot for him. Maybe this guy is very good, and he wants to come to the Sox just because of Alexei and Viciedo. We'll see.

Carlos Beltran 2 yr deal with the Cardinals.

I fear that if the Sox are in the lead for this guy, he's not that good.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 22, 2011 -> 01:09 PM) Buster_ESPN Buster Olney Oakland moving closer to a Gio Gonzalez trade, with the bidding down to two teams -- Washington is one, perhaps MIA or BOS the other. Any day now....please.

Don't expect year-by-year terms, no-trade info, etc, or even a comment from Kenny until next week after Danks passes a physical.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 21, 2011 -> 08:33 PM) Danks could be traded at anytime.. It happened to Bronson Arroyo as well as Sergio.. Ok, I may have been confusing it with signing free agents. In that case, he has more trade value now, but I still hope they play out the first few months of the 2012 season with Peavy, Danks, Floyd, Humber, and Sale.

I think Kenny's definition of rebuilding is a longterm process rather than just a one offseason purge. He probably intended to move Danks, but didn't get a deal he liked. That's fair.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 21, 2011 -> 08:22 PM) Oh I want to punch this guy in the face. Agreed. And it's so much more than just being anti-white sox.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a rule about signing a player and then immediately trading him? Anyway, I would have never believed Quentin would be on the roster at Christmas, so I'll say he's the next move.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 21, 2011 -> 07:55 PM) Wow, that K0na guy REALLY knows his s***. I just hope he keeps getting this stuff.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 21, 2011 -> 04:38 PM) If Danks does sign an extension sometime soon and the terms are close to 5/$65M then Doug Seyller deserves are undying respect because no writer whether national or otherwise has even hinted that the Sox and Danks are even talking and yet some f***ing Art Designer with 182 followers on twitter already has a dollar amount out there. This would be at least his 3rd big get. Obviously this guy knows somebody, or he's hacked into somebody's email. You would think after the last couple times, Kenny would find out who knows him and put an end to it....not that I'm complaining.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 21, 2011 -> 04:07 PM) I dont think it is a dealbreaker, but lets be honest, our top two relievers are no longer in the bullpen with Santos traded and Sale moving to a starter. There is a lot of question marks in the bullpen after Crain/Thornton at the moment. Frasor and Ohman were spotty at best Fair enough, but Frasor has a good track record. Ohman is just a guy that every team has... loogy, and long relief when the team is losing. I like Axelrod as a long reliver/spot starter. Bullpens are so hard to predict. I don't think it's a given Santos is any good for the Jays either. One thing I know...the Sox need starting pitching in their pipeline. Molina gives them one.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 21, 2011 -> 03:59 PM) If that's the rotation, having a strong and deep bullpen should be mandatory. Thank Goodness we didn't trade away any relievers this offseason. I can't promise this will work out, because I have no idea, but what if they felt getting a good starting pitcher in the system was more important than having Santos another year when they have a lot of confidence in Reed? If they keep Thornton, Ohman, Frasor, Crain, and Reed along with some long relief, that should be enough...and Molina will be at AA and be ready to go in 2013 at the latest. I just don't think Santos being traded is a deal breaker when it comes to the Sox competing in 2012.

It does make some sense if Kenny exhausted his efforts to trade him, and then he went back to Danks' agent and told him what other teams think of him. Maybe that's what made Danks want to get locked up now, instead of risking back-to-back bad years. I'm happy. I hope they stick with Peavy, Danks, Floyd, Humber, and Sale and just hope for the best with the lineup.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 21, 2011 -> 03:11 PM) 3/54 would make sense from JR's philosophy about pitcher's contracts. More like 4/54. 2012: 12 2013: 13 2014: 14 2015: 15 That's more White Soxie.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 20, 2011 -> 01:55 PM) Adam Jones is a much better player than anyone the Sox have.. DeAza to me is a 4th OF. De Aza may very well be a 4th outfielder, but if there was ever a year to give him 650 PAs to find out, this one coming up may be it.

First series of 2012 should be swell.

Rangers win.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 17, 2011 -> 01:51 PM) I was at first. But after this Latos trade, man, I expecting severely disappointing returns for Danks and/or Floyd. Then they shouldn't make a trade for the sake of making a trade. Peavy, Danks, Floyd, Humber, Sale is a major league rotation that can win if everything goes right. If they have a rotation with Axelrod and Stewart, they're not winning. They worry about attendance so why not at least sell a little hope with a pretty good rotation and see where they are in June/July.

So I trust Peavy is getting the offseason he was looking forward to in September, and he's preparing for his 34 starts and 220 innings. Where's that quote?

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 06:40 PM) Maybe Rockies or Red Sox too? The Red Sox did not bid according to the Boston Globe.

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 06:33 PM) I'm going to guess Nationals. Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me either. The buzz is leaning toward Texas and Toronto. With Wilson gone now and their apprehension on going after Fielder, I'm thinking the Rangers really want Darvish, so maybe they overbid.

@DKnobler Rangers or Blue Jays?