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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 11, 2013 -> 09:44 PM) Ha. Heat are in trouble. This reeks of '11. Missing the game. Since Lebron is a better scorer than Mike (he would average 45 in the 80s, right? mike couldn't even do that) can you tell me how many points this insane scorer has. Also, what's he averaging for the series. Haven't checked.

Nevermind.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 10, 2013 -> 01:26 PM) Hmm, Lebron right now and Shaq in late 90's early 2000's is actually something interesting to think about in terms of which dominated more. I would say in the regular season it's lebron, but in the playoffs it's shaq.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 10, 2013 -> 12:51 PM) I think if he consistently played in a tough league, he'd learn to get past the physical play (where as right now he rarely has to deal with it) cause he clearly has the physical strength to deal with it. Durant would be great in any era. Like LBJ, he is an elite player in any era. Trying to project how a player's psyche would change seems a bit much.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 9, 2013 -> 09:05 PM) Before this Heat run, it was pretty ugly for both teams outside of the 3-point shooting. It's mostly the Heat role players blowing it open (Chalmers, Anderson, Allen and Miller). I guess Bosh has hit a few mid-range J's too, but Lebron and Wade have done little. The Heat role players have played a near perfect game. 8-12 from 3 (when you exclude Lebron's 0-2) and 1 turnover. The Spurs have really no shot if the Heat role players play like this. It was a must win for the heat and it was at home though. I'm looking forward to game 3.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 9, 2013 -> 08:55 PM) Kind of scary that the Heat are up 10 with Lebron playing like crap, the Spurs hitting most of their 3's, and the Heat getting destroyed on the glass. Parker, Duncan, and Ginobili are playing really, really bad. I was actually shocked that they were within striking distance for that long. Combined 10-31 with 8 TOs.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 9, 2013 -> 03:19 AM) I will respond to Zoom and Booqua (amazing that he actually came with something besides piggybacking zoom) in detail later when I'm sober. If you're going to respond to me can you please use some evidence. You give a lot of opinions, but nothing of substance to backup your arguments. I try to stay out of debates with you because it never really goes anywhere and everything is opinion with you. Before you go on your "athletes are so much better today and are so much bigger and stronger"spiel, can you please remember that Chris Paul (

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 7, 2013 -> 04:43 PM) Well, I hate to be that guy again - but I will. 1:So, 54 year old/old-timer comes out publicly and says his era was tougher, this era sucks, LeBron would be average, yadda, yadda, yadda. Gee, what a shock! Past players are always going to pump up their own era while dismissing others. The things Wilt used to say about Michael and his era? Sheet. 2: Who the f*** from the 80's is checkin' LeBron? lol. He'd be the biggest player on the court by far with athleticism and a skill-set at his size nobody had ever seen. He'd force multiple rule changes by himself. LeBron would f***in' destroy the 80's. 3: Now I do concede I drink a lot. But I don't recall the Bulls ever sweeping through a post-season. They did lose every now and then. They damn near lost to a team with John Starks as it's second best player. They needed 6 games to beat a team that employed Ervin (don't ever call him Magic) Johnson as it's starting C. They needed superhuman efforts from MJ to beat a team (the Jazz) who ran out a 6'1 white SG, a 7'0 sloth at C and Bryon Russell. The Bulls never saw a team during their entire run as good as the Heat. This notion that the Bulls would sweep the Heat by an average of 25 ppg is ridiculous and blatant homerism at it's finest. 4: People need to stop acting like hand-checking is the equivalent to steroids in baseball. It is not a skill to hold, grab, shove, jab and molest somebody. If the internet and social media had been around in the 80's, everybody would be cursing the league for allowing that type of defense to be played. Look at how you guys b**** about the refs now. lmao. stop it. 5: Not only would the Heat present a ton of problems for the Bulls, but so would every NBA champion since '07 save for the '11 Mavs. Duncan by himself is a major issue (especially the '07 version). Bowen is one of the top 5 on-ball, lockdown defenders of the last 20 years. Yes, Michael's gonna get his. But Bowen is a little better on D than Byron Scott, Hersey Hawkins, Craig Ehlo, Dan Majerle and Jeff Hornacek. Parker and Ginobili's quickness, athleticism and skill-sets on the perimeter could/would cause major problems. Especially if we're talking the late 90's Bulls (early 90's is different). the '08 Celtics would also cause problems. That team for that year was every bit as good defensively as any of those Bulls teams (check the numbers). And guess what?!!! They did IT WITHOUT handchecking!!! yayyyy. KG and his size, length, and skill-set would be a problem. Pierce/Allen/Rondo would be better than anything the Bulls saw. They'd be able to throw Pierce, Posey or Tony Allen, all three being good to great defenders at MJ. '09/'10 Lakers. The Bulls would be at a major disadvantage size wise against that freak of a Laker front-court. Kobe's going to come as close as anybody to matching Jordan. Already covered the Heat. I am not saying ANY of these teams would beat the Bulls. But to act as if they could just rollover every recent NBA champ? Get the f*** outta here. 1. Wilt played a few eras before Michael. This is different. Hell, Rodman played against and with some current NBA players (Kobe, Duncan, Allen, Garnett, etc). His opinion, while it may be wrong, should hold more weight than WIlt's based on that. 2. What rule changes would he force? He would do well in the 80s for sure because it was uptempo, but why would he do better than Mike? The dude asked to sit out the in the beginning of the fourth quarter because he was tired. This was in a FINALS game and the tempo wasn't what it was in the 80s. He would probably have to slim down a bit to keep the tempo in the 80s. 3. The 91 Bulls went 15-2 in the playoffs and lost their 2 games by a combined 4 points. They needed 5 games to beat a team with Ervin (people call him Magic) Johnson in the finals and the one loss was by 2 points. 4. It's harder to score against the handcheck. You can dislike it all you want, but this much is true. 5. Jordan would do fine against Bowen. Early 90s Mike would have torched Bowen because Bowen wouldn't be quick enough to guard him. It also depends on what rules we're playing with. Parker and Ginobili would have problems with the physicality those late 90s bulls played with. The 08 Celtics had to face 08 offenses so it's different. They changed the rules after 04 because offenses were so bad against the handcheck. Just because they didn't use the handcheck in 08 doesn't mean they're a better defense overall. The offense could have just been worse. Yayyy. Pierce? Seriously? Jordan put up 25-13-7 his last game against Pierce and this was with handchecking. Mike was 40. I think he would be okay. I just don't understand how your name is "Jordan4life" yet you don't give the guy the respect he deserves. I'm sure you'll say something like "He just gets overrated and I'm just trying to be real!111!", but you're not dude. Old Jordan played against most of the guys that Lebron averaged 18 PPG against in a finals (Marion, Kidd, Dirk, Chandler) and he did fine. There are youtube videos of old Mike torching Marion, Kidd, and Pierce (among others). Come on man.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 8, 2013 -> 02:57 PM) That Magic team wasn't together nearly long enough to establish any kind of pattern. They were really only together for three seasons. 93-94 was Hardaway's rookie year and they lost in the first round. They didn't face the Bulls. 94-95 they added Horace Grant and beat the Bulls before getting swept by Hakeem/Drexler in the finals. Yes, Michael wasn't quite right yet, but he still put up 31-6-5 that postseason while shooting 48% from the floor. It's not like he pulled an '11 Finals Lebron. The bigger issue was that they didn't have Rodman yet so their frontcourt was pretty weak. 95-96 the Bulls smoked them, but Grant missed most of that series and Nick Anderson missed a game as well. Shaq left for LA in 96 and Penny started getting hurt after that. Had that team been together longer or had better timing/luck, they might have been a juggernaut. They had two stars and three very solid role players. IMO, that's the best/most talented team I've seen that didn't win a ring. Yes, he put up good numbers, but averaged 4 turnovers a game. His PER in the playoffs was the lowest ever outside of his first playoffs experience. I think that was the biggest issue. If Jordan was his normal self I think they win that series. I mean he went 8-22 with 19 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, and 8 turnovers in game one that series. They lost by 3...

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 5, 2013 -> 09:47 AM) I believe it was a year ago, Illinois played the first four minutes of a game using a women's ball, I think they were missing everything. Yeah, but they've played much, much more basketball with a regular ball than I have. At that time I hadn't played in a while. If I played more often I could see how it would hurt though.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 5, 2013 -> 08:43 AM) this was her rebuttal: "But your neverending argument that WNBA games suck b/c it's a women's game is stupid, b/c it's the exact same game that the terrible mens' teams play and yet you still watch those." I told her it freaking makes the NEWS when a woman's player dunks. It may be the same rules... same ball... but the games are very different. I just broke out Geno Auriemma's quote: "The fact that a woman could actually play right now in the NBA and compete successfully against the level of play that they have is absolutely ludicrous." It's not even the same ball. It's smaller. One time I accidentally grabbed a women's ball at a gym (I guess all the men's ones were checked out). I thought I was Reggie Miller when I was shooting around. I was making everything. It was a bit disheartening when someone else came to shoot at my rim and I felt their ball and realized it was bigger and heavier.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jun 3, 2013 -> 08:19 PM) No idea why Vogel has left George and Hibbert on the bench together so long. This lineup for the Pacers is garbage. No scoring at all. He's saving them for next years finals.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 3, 2013 -> 08:17 AM) I have a bit of a crush on Delle Donne. She's pretty. She's also 6'5 195 lbs.

Holy Game of Thrones.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 12:45 PM) Um, no. Shooting guard is 3 guys deep, and that includes two injured guys. There's a HUGE drop-off after Harden, Kobe and Wade. Small forward isn't significantly better either. Obviously you have two freaks and Melo, but that's about it for star-caliber players. Paul George is right there, but using your Hibbert logic, he averaged 17 PPG while shooting 41% in his best year so he can't possibly be a difference maker. I think you must have forgotten that power forward is a position as well. Point guard is loaded and Lebron and Durant are awesome. Big men in general are terrible though and there's a real shortage on wings that can take over a game right now. He's a lost cause.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 11:50 AM) If Hibbert can do what he's doing now over a full season? Uh, yeah. Give me healthy Dwight over Mourning and Mutombo without hesitation. Lol, okay. Sometimes I forget who I'm talking to. Paul George is a more athletic Scottie pippen.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 11:44 AM) I would think somebody like you would be praying this is a fluke. If this is really the new Hibbert (I don't think it is) and Howard reverts back to being dominant over a year removed from back surgery, boom, there's two elite centers right there. That's all you 90's geeks have. Anthony Davis will be running the position soon as well. Every other position? Not even a contest. Lol, not at all. The better he does, the better my point looks. Is hibbert as good as Ewing? Is he as good as Hakeem, Robinson, Shaquille, mourning, and mutombo? Dude, this kills your theory. Roy hibbert and Dwight Howard are what you're hanging your hat on? Seriously?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 10:39 AM) Hibbert vs Heat 2012 semifinals: FG% - 47.5, PPG -12.5, RPG -11.5 Hibbert vs Heat 2012 semifinals last 3 games (all losses): FG% - 44%, PPG -10.0, RPG - 9.6 This, along with his pedestrian career averages (sans blocks), is the Roy Hibbert I know. I'm a numbers guy. I don't do twtw. Hibbert's done nothing in his career that would suggest he could go on this type of explosion. So kill all that "haha, I told you" nonsense. This is Mike Bibby 2002 conference finals at the moment. Yes, but the game is evolving. That's why centers have disappeared. Oh, wait.....

The pacers backcourt really showed up tonight.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 30, 2013 -> 08:13 PM) Stephenson in foul trouble and their bench sucks. Granger at 70% would help them a lot. I missed the 2nd foul he committed. I should have looked at the box score.

Am I the only one wondering why Sam young is playing so much?

El Canelo vs Mayweather scheduled for September 14th. Looking forward to it.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 29, 2013 -> 02:33 PM) No, CT was teammates with Adam - it was CT's first real "turning into a nice guy" season. Adam f***ed CT over by being a big p**** near the end and being unable to crawl to a finish in, I believe, the challenge right before the final. Wes was with Kenny. Kenny sucked. Just call it right now, though. CT and Wes will be unstoppable. This. I have no idea how this team is fair. They're going to have to think of something that one of them sucks at to create friction though.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 29, 2013 -> 12:28 PM) An upcoming 24th season of MTV's The Challenge, entitled Rivals II, is expected to premiere June 26, 2013. RIVALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSS CT and Wes are going to be teammates. That should be pretty insane. Can't wait.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ May 29, 2013 -> 10:38 AM) Actually, yes. You're relying on a bunch of freshman, you lost McClaurin, Griffey (Ekey is maybe a poor man's Griffey) and you also lost Henry, which for this year is huge. You may be starting Egwu and Ekey with 2 freshman coming off the bench. Team was carried by seniors, one of them a star. On paper, it's clearly not a better team. I guess I'm just not a huge pessimist. Rice, against high major schools and Creighton and Wichita St (who were both ranked that year), averaged 16.2 PPG and 6.5 RPG. He had a year off to get into better shape and practice against better athletes. The guy clearly has talent and tied with Abrams and Egwu this year for the team's most improved player award. I guess I just have more faith in the guy that averaged close to 17 and 6 two years ago. He should do an okay job filling Paul's shoes. It's clear to you that it's not a better team. That's fine. I was saying that it wouldn't surprise me if they did better, I don't know if they will do better. The freshman aren't even on campus yet and Starks hasn't gotten the waiver.