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QUOTE (Jake @ May 29, 2012 -> 12:06 PM) 15 games apiece against KC and Minny? That should be a nice buffer for our record. Well everybody....we hold the cards. That is nice. Or it could be an awful stretch of games we should have won, but didn't... History tells us that what I just said is very likely.

QUOTE (Brian @ May 29, 2012 -> 12:01 PM) A friend on Facebook already pulling the attendance card out. Sad. Cubs fans have been doing that ever since the Cubs series this year. They see that their team sucks a lot and they see the Sox playing well. They have no comebacks other than the attendance stuff. In previous years where both teams were kind of bad (like last year), I've had Cubs fan friends tell me that both teams suck and that winning against the Cubs is no big deal. A lot of Cubs fans are just sad, sad people. Usually baseball-stupid too.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 29, 2012 -> 11:41 AM) Can't tell what pitch from that photo. Many pitchers throw fastballs with fingers together, especially those that throw 2 seamers. Not a change though, obviously. The difference is that he's got the two fingers on one seam (it appears that way to me, not easy to tell). Two seamers usually aren't thrown with fingers together. If they are, it's towards the middle of the ball, not on the seams. Also, the positioning of his thumb also seems like a slider grip.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 29, 2012 -> 11:24 AM) So if this team goes down the s***ter, do we still love KW based on the facts presented in this thread? You know the answer is..."hell no!"

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ May 29, 2012 -> 11:15 AM) Another awesome thing about that picture: I think he's throwing a slider there, but I'm not sure. It's really hard to tell what he's throwing and I get the feeling hitters agree. Looks like a slider. Two fingers gripping on one seam.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ May 29, 2012 -> 10:22 AM) http://deadspin.com/5913898/paul-konerko-i...ossibly-psychic Didn't even think of PK's run that way....he's the slowest athlete on earth, so none of his hits have been infield cheapies. Yup, he won't get many cheap hits.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 29, 2012 -> 09:37 AM) Ozzie rode parades. Dunn has not. Makes perfect sense He's probably still pissed off that Dunn "lost" him his job. lololol

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 29, 2012 -> 09:20 AM) Excellent officiating? Were we watching the same game? The 4 technical on Boston in a 10 minute span? They weren't terrible, but they were far from excellent. Last night sucked. I found myself rooting for Boston, which is sad because Boston is my 2nd most hated team behind Miami. By quarter three I was rooting for the meteor. They were being sarcastic. That video has LeBron taking 3 steps.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 29, 2012 -> 09:28 AM) I have to admit I have been kind of surprised at how much Hawk doesn't like Manuel. Jerry seemed like a really nice guy, it was just a very laid back coaching style that didn't really inspire confidence when things went bad. The one comment Hawk made yesterday that stood out to me was "Adam Dunn said spring training was the most fun he had during ST in the big leagues. I asked him 'was it because of Robin?' And Dunn replied 'that was a big part of it'". Ozzie must have disliked Dunn.

Easily the Cubs. The Twins will be pesky again very soon. Morneau and Mauer are back to hitting. They won't win anything this year, but I think they'll win 70ish games and give us trouble later on in the season. I wish we would have played them more earlier in the year.

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ May 29, 2012 -> 09:15 AM) They can be, but the current White Sox are a great example of how advanced statistics describe last year, not this year. What was our PECOTA win% again? We could still meet it, but it sure seems like we won't. The "eye test" employed by numerous experts predicted the exact same results. Everybody appears to be wrong, at this juncture. PECOTA sucks. It's been horribly inaccurate for years. I did a composite projection based on 4 projection systems and the Sox came out at .500. I know a lot of people who thought worse would happen. What advanced stats aren't good at is predicting the future on players with little prior history. But when you're talking about established players, the right stat can tell you a lot.

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ May 29, 2012 -> 09:00 AM) There are no bad statistics, just bad usage of statistics. In the end, it's things that actually happened multiplied, divided and occasionally added or subtracted together. You can choose to understand what the statistics are telling you, know their limitations, and use them to your benefit, or you can ignore them and just watch the games. Neither statistics nor your eyes are particularly good at predicting future results, though, so there's no reason to s**t on either one. I'd say stats tend to be less biased and can be better indicators of future performance. But you're right, there's no reason to s*** on either one...unless one side decides to s*** on the other first.

QUOTE (ptatc @ May 28, 2012 -> 10:11 PM) I thought relievers were a dime a dozen and wouldn't count as impact players (not directed at you specifically J4L) My perspective is that relievers don't win you that many games (per say), but they sure as hell can lose you a bunch. It doesn't mean that they're not valuable, it just means that I'd rather have a good starter or position player instead.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 28, 2012 -> 10:17 PM) Someone needs to make an avy with this picture: and "NEVER FORGET" written across it for the site to use. Rally Crede part dos. You're welcome.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 28, 2012 -> 07:17 PM) Yes! What a steal that was...Zach Stewart is contributing valuable innings while THAT guy sits on the DL! Neener neener! He started yesterday and threw 5 innings of 2 run ball.

BTW, Chris Sale has already eclipsed his WAR (1.4) from last season this year (1.5 before this start today, that will go up by .3 after this start I bet). Good thing we kept him in the rotation.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 28, 2012 -> 06:57 PM) 2 and 0 against pitchers with out arms. 2-0 against switch pitchers (ambidextrous). DUH!

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 28, 2012 -> 06:09 PM) Can throw De Aza in here as well. Not a youngin but he'll be here on the cheap for a while. De Aza is the newest scrap heap turned gold acquisition by KW.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ May 28, 2012 -> 03:03 PM) What are these said numbers? I'm curious. After 0-2 Konerko is hitting .355/.429/.903. Yes, a .903 SLG. That's a 1.331 OPS. He's got 5 HR in these situations to go along with a .286 BABIP. In other words, it's not exactly luck, Konerko's just that good.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 28, 2012 -> 06:02 PM) J4L being positive about the Sox? Holy s*** He must have had too many drinks today.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 28, 2012 -> 05:43 PM) For those like myself that have chastised this organization without remorse the last 2-3 years for the complete inability to produce young, cost-controlled, impact talent the last decade or so - NOW WE'RE TALKING!!! It's about f***ing time. In Sale, Viciedo and Reed - we're looking at a potential #1 starter with Xbox on speed type stuff, a run-producing offensive beast god who deposits missiles all over the damn place and a Craig Kimbrel like android in which you know once he enters the game that it's time for hitters to bend over and take it like a porn star. These three are cheap and belong to us for the next X amount of years. That's how you build a juggernaut and go on a sustained run. This is the new-age way of running a successful baseball operation. I am for now very please. I still have concerns about Sale's health, but yeah, it appears the White Sox finally have some cheap and young talent around.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ May 28, 2012 -> 05:16 PM) With the surplus of pitches Sale had today anyway they can push his start back a day so we can get Kershaw/Sale??? I'm just being greedy lol Oh man, that'd be an incredible matchup.

You wonder how the Indians score runs with their crappy lineup.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 28, 2012 -> 05:02 PM) Which hitter besides Scott and Joyce are you talking about? Keppinger wasn't available today, neither was Jennings/Longoria. Carlos Pena. He's easily their biggest power threat.

My question is, why the hell did Joe Maddon sit 3 of his best hitters today? I know that Sale's lefty and those hitters are lefties, but you shouldn't take 3 of your best guys out of the lineup. That just seems a little excessive. Maybe he was trying to give them Memorial day off or something, lol.