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QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 05:31 PM) Well, this probably won't be a lot of fun. Wood against the middle of the lineup. Choke job time.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 05:06 PM) All I need to read to know that it is a completely worthless stat. Jerry Owens has very good range in the outfield. He was a +11 in Plus/Minus in 2007 in center field, which made him one of the leaders that year among all center fielders. So it's not only UZR saying he's a good outfielder. Sabermetric defensive stats make sense a lot of the time. Sure, we all think that Brian Anderson is god in center field (including myself), but are we there to watch every single play of every single team other than the White Sox? Obviously, no. That's how Plus/Minus is calculated. They watch every single play of the season and give players a rating. UZR is somewhat similar, it just has a lot of different variables in it. Most of the time, UZR and Plus/Minus correlate a lot. I like to think that Plus/Minus is a great system and if it's a great system and UZR usually shows the same results, then UZR is also a trustworthy stat. I would use Plus/Minus more often, but UZR updates every day. I need to pay to see Plus/Minus and it comes out after the season is pretty much over. If you're wondering what factors go into UZR - look here.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 05:17 PM) I thought it was a great swing, just stayed up in the air a little too long. I feel that Theriot has tried to hit for way too much power this season. That's not his game. He's a little man and he should play the little man's game. He did that last year and it worked pretty well for him. In that situation, with a tying run at third, he needs to try and swing for a single. Put it in the hole. He shouldn't even think about hitting the ball in the air unless it lands between three guys in the outfield.

Theriot flies out. Way to try and hit a 3 run homer.

When you only have one decent reliever in your bullpen and you need him to get one more out than he normally does. USE HIM!

Does Eric Wedge think Wood is incapable of getting 4 outs?

Infield single? Wow. Here comes the 3 run blast on a routine fly ball to center from Soriano.

Oh wow. Rafael Perez? Really Eric Wedge? I forsee this game getting tied.

They should have just kept Lee in the game.

They're loaded. This looks like an awful lot like yesterday (the situation that is)

Looks like that win yesterday didn't turn the Cubs around. And I thought the Indians would be the team that would make the Cubs hit again. Guess not, for now.

QUOTE (rangercal @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 03:33 PM) He was Kidding. I hope he was Kidding about BA having a great year too. I don't know. Sounds like some honest words.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 03:17 PM) -5? Wow. I only get to see him when they play the Cubs. He always play a pretty damn good CF when I get a chance to watch him. I was quite surprised too considering that accounts his arm strength into it. I was also quite surprised that BA's UZR wasn't better. He actually had a horrible UZR back in 2006 and 2007. Here's what's sort of funny. Jerry Owens, even with his crappy ass arm, had a UZR/150 of 12.8. That's really, really good. Dewayne Wise is better defensively in center than Brian Anderson, according to UZR. He's well above average in left and above average in center. Scott Podsednik is actually an above average left fielder. His career mark UZR in left is 1.4. Just don't put him in center field, he's real bad. Rob Mackowiak was indeed terrible in center. He had a UZR of -5.6 in 2006 as a CF. Put that over a span of 150 games and it's -16.2. It also appears that Aaron Rowand has lost a couple of steps after crashing into the wall in Philadelphia back in 2006. He had a -21 last year in terms of Plus/Minus in San Francisco when he accumulated a +31 from 2004-2006. Rowand had a UZR of -6.1 in San Francisco last season. Looks like the large outfield is making A-Row look bad. And for those of you who said that BA is a better center field than Rowand - UZR says you're wrong. I guess saber stats make sense a lot. But they make me scratch my head at times.

QUOTE (kane0730 @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 03:10 PM) Is the line-up floating around somewhere?? I need a good laugh. You already know what it will be... 1. Pods 2. Alexei 3. AJP 4. Konerko 5. Wise 6. BA 7. Getz 8. Bacon 9. Contreras I think it might be time to move Beckham up to the 6 hole.

Ankiel has a great arm, but Anderson's range is better in center field. Ankiel's UZR before this season was always negative. His lowest was last year at -5, meaning he cost his team 5 runs in the field. Anderson's is barely above average, believe it or not. He has incredible range in right and left, but not so much in center.

This definitely made me feel better about yesterday's game.

QUOTE (beck72 @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 11:41 AM) Now, say the Red Sox called and offered Michael Bowden or Clay Bucholz for Alexei.... would you hang up? That said, I like Alexei's power and ability to play SS and 2b. But do the sox move Beckham away from his natural position, to play 3b, or move Getz who looks like he's from Minnesota farm system [something sox fans have been wanting more of], and hope teams don't realize he can't hit a decent breaking ball? I would hang up in a second.

QUOTE (hawkubes @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 09:11 AM) This thread is ridiculous. It's one bad outing. The only reason this team has been able to stay afloat is the outstanding bullpen, and Scott Linebrink has been a huge part of it. I can't believe how quickly everybody turns on a player. This was a tough loss and I'm as pissed off about it as anyone, but I have no doubt Linebrink will bounce back and I sure as hell don't want him sent down (which will never happen but has been suggested) or traded away for cents on the dollar. Have you not been watching him this year? There's a reason he's 2-4 this season. His WHIP is a blinding 1.542. That's horrible for a relief pitcher. He's only come in once when there were runners on base and of course, he let that runner score and I think that was yesterday. But Linebrink has given up a lot of hits and if he were to come into more pressure situations, he would have allowed a lot more inherited runners to score. What's even worse is that his WHIP has been 2.538 in the past two weeks. This isn't new. He's given up the lead or let another team tie the game at least 4-5 times this year.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 09:27 AM) I'm looking forward to seeing the complaints about the lineup tonight. Really nothing Ozzie can do. Is JD not playing tonight?

QUOTE (Stocking @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 04:35 AM) Maybe if it were unlocked, but its not. The first two generation iphones couldnt even send a MMS. The technology in the Iphone has been around for years in multiple phones, apple just did a fantastic job of marketing it for the everyday person. The iPhone can send MMS now. But guess what? AT&T still doesn't support it... No wonder people wanted to jailbreak and unlock their iPhones so they can get on T-Mobile...

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 11:29 AM) iPhone fanboys are hilarious. It's a brand new OS and plenty have already developed. The library will grow. You guys get so defensive if anything isn't the great iPhone. The Pre is the s***, and has many features the iPhone doesn't, and all the features it does. Nobody wants to develop for it because HTML 5 is a brand new revision of HTML. It's going to take some time for the Pre to get on the board and I don't think Palm and Sprint have the time for people to adjust and learn about the new code because the iPhone 3GS is basically on board with the Pre in almost every single hardware category. The Pre does have a nice OS, as it allows multi-tasking and such, but there's some problems with the Pre and the network it is on. 1. The iPhone already dominates the cell phone market. They have 51% of the cell phone share in the United States. 2. People really don't like Sprint. 3. Like I said before, the new iPhone 3GS pretty much has everything the Palm Pre has and an App Store with over 50,000 applications to attract customers. It's already like a monster that's gotten too big. People like developing iPhone apps because they are coded in Objective C, something that a lot of people know and anybody can basically program for it. And I wouldn't call 18 applications on the Pre App Store "plenty". If the Pre really wants to build up its App Store, do what Apple did. Charge people $100 bucks for an SDK and let them develop. It might take a while though.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 18, 2009 -> 04:39 PM) Apparently Linebrink is today's Soxtalk ™ scapegoat, not the guy who actually caused it all -- Chris Getz. Typical Soxtalk is all I'll say. Yes, it's ALL Linebrink's fault -- Getz didn't have anything to do with it...nothing at all. How can you not blame him? Yes, none of those runs were earned. But he gave up two homers to two guys who haven't hit more than 10 since the ASB of 2008.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jun 18, 2009 -> 04:03 PM) That 1st error given to Getz was on Ramirez. He pu**ed out of the way of Fontenot sliding into him and at the same time tried to bare-hand the thing. The next error in the 8th was a rocket that short-hopped him- that's a super tough play, if you've ever played at any level. This Reds series will be tough with Cueto, Harang, and Arroyo (in no order), but we should win 2 with how bad the NL is and how we've played on the road. That was supposed to be a double play.

QUOTE (jenks45monster @ Jun 18, 2009 -> 04:01 PM) Did you watch the game? He made an amazing play to save a run in I forget which inning (4th maybe?). The first error he made should have have been on Alexei. He just let the ball flip on the transition go right past him. The 8th inning error was f***ing terrible though. Two wrongs and one right doesn't make him excused.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2009 -> 04:01 PM) One pitch pitcher, which is a flat fastball. His shoulder injury has made it harder for him to keep the ball above the belt. He hasn't even been close all season with his splitter. It's time to demote him to 7th inning duty and use Thornton as our primary 8th inning guy. I don't know how many times Linebrink has to fail before this move is made. Thornton was the setup man for a long time. Dotel would have been better today. Seriously.