Y2Jimmy0

That's not what I said. Read my post from a few minutes ago.

If the Sox wait for him to "prove himself", it likely costs a hell of a lot more $$

I have no idea if it's true but it makes some sense for both parties obviously. If the Sox do nothing, Eloy comes up on April 26th. He plays this year and 6 more seasons. He'll likely qualify for Super Two status which gives him 4 arbitration years. If the Sox believe that Eloy is an absolute stud, those arb years could potentially cost between $50-$60 million. If you look at year 8 as a $30 million commitment, then you are really only giving him $10-$15 million over the first 3 years where he'd cost you peanuts otherwise. It makes sense for the Sox because he could be in the lineup on opening day, never have to go through the arb process and it could be structured in a manner that is cost efficient. If he bombs, it looks really bad but I think they get praised if they ultimately do it. For Eloy, he could likely make more $$ betting on himself, but guaranteeing yourself $100 million would be tough to turn down and it's only foregoing 1 free agent year.

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Holy fucking shit this thread. I'm not easily offended but I'm an atheist that has multiple gay friends. To me, the mere suggestion that a higher being created us at all makes me chuckle but still believing that being a homosexual is some sort of choice is absolutely absurd. It's like being on the other side of the vaccine "debate". For some things, there just isn't another side to argue.

There aren't enough roster spots to do what you're suggesting. Especially with an 8 man bullpen. I would go Eloy in LF, Jay in CF and Palka/Guyer platooning in RF.

They needed to add Seby Zavala to the roster and weren't going to carry 4 catchers on the 40-man. They tried to slide him off the 40 man. He was claimed and then an opportunity came to acquire Colome for Narvaez and they did it. That left them with just Welington/Zavala on the 40-man. James McCann sucks so I understand being critical of that signing but Kevan Smith is just a guy and is 30 years old. We should see Zavala and Collins sometime this season.

JD Martinez will 100% opt out. He re-enters the market next time with a QO though. He should be able to get another 5/100 deal though. The Sox should be more than willing to do that. Hell, the Sox should have done it last off-season.

I like CJ Abrams a lot but I'm not sure he stays at SS

They could keep Leury and expose Rondon to waivers in this scenario I suppose. Engel probably makes the team too. Engel isn't better than Brandon Guyer though so I can't justify putting him over Guyer.

He's their #5 starter for sure. I'm not sure he's healthy to start the year though

I will guess that the White Sox still end up trading for OF Joc Pederson This is wishful thinking because it doesn't include a really bad baseball player who seems like a roster lock for some reason. 1. Jon Jay CF 2. Yoan Moncada 3B 3. Jose Abreu 1B 4. Yonder Alonso DH 5. Joc Pederson RF 6. Daniel Palka LF 7. Welington Castillo C 8. Tim Anderson SS 9. Yolmer Sanchez 2B Bench C James McCann INF Jose Rondon OF Brandon Guyer 1. Carlos Rondon 2. Reynaldo Lopez 3. Lucas Giolito 4. Ivan Nova 5. Manny Banuelos Bullpen Alex Colome Kelvin Herrera Nate Jones Juan Minaya Ian Hamilton Dylan Covey Jace Fry Caleb Frare Ervin Santana starts on the DL. Eloy Jimenez joins the team on Friday April 26th.

I usually go to at least 10 games a year. I won't be going in April at all unless my buddy puts me in a suite. I'll be at FutureSox Day on June 15th vs Yanks, I'll probably try and catch Cease's debut later this summer and take free tix when it's super convenient. That's it though. I'm not even going to Eloy's debut because it's an inconvenient date for me.

You should get over this. The injury is unfortunate but he needed to pitch in the majors last year. Getting his innings count higher was an absolute necessity.

Callahan will not get close to that amount of $$ with his injury history and medical red flags

Yes I do. They have a ton of payroll space to use and they should be a destination.

This is actually one reason why I'm led to believe that they are in fact in the discussion. If they weren't, they'd be used left and right.

I agree with you/ A team like the Dodgers is screwed financially if they do a short-term deal. I think if he ends up in LA, the deal will be like 13-14 years with opt outs to lower the CBT amount.

Bryce Harper isn't taking a short-term deal. You don't hire Scott Boras to do that. he'll get his $$.

Bananas going home this early is really bad for tv. The seasons are much better when he's around until the end.

Sox will need to buy some pitching at some point. They should keep drafting bats though.

So this actually isn't true for Eloy. I was under this impression as well but I've since been corrected by people close to the team. This date changes due to Eloy being on the 40-man roster. He must spend 20 days in the minor leagues in order to use up a major league option. If he doesn't spend 20 days in the minors, he automatically accrues one year of service. This means he's eligible to join the White Sox around April 20th. The Sox are on an extended road trip at the time. I would expect Eloy to debut on Friday April 26th vs Detroit.

CJ Abrams is my guy but it'd be tough for me to get upset about Vaughn despite the ceiling questions. He's going to mash. He looks like Josh Donaldson at the dish. I think Abrams might go #1 to Baltimore. He seems like a Mike Elias type of guy. He found Correa when he wasn't supposed to go that high.

Dan McNeil said the other day that The Sox wouldn't let Hahn go on their show. In my piece, I didn't really criticize the beat writers. They aren't columnists. I think it's weak that they never questioned anyone on the mixed messaging with Hahn/Williams but whatever. One of them was lying, who was it? My issue was mostly with the NBCS Chicago crew. They've been leading the charge on Machado for two years and started dumping on him as soon as he took another offer. That's my biggest issue in all of this. They don't have to criticize the Sox but they shouldn't blatantly lie to try and placate fans either. Hahn and KW lie constantly. It's the media's job to sift through that shit. People don't like him but the world needs more Joe Cowley's for this reason

Oh yeah of course. It wasn't about them asking tough questions. My biggest gripe was slandering Machado after wanting him.