Y2Jimmy0
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Alec Hansen is pitching for Great Falls tonight.
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QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 01:03 PM) Because Sale could have 20 wins and is going for the Cy Young. I know SABR stats overshadow wins but it is still a used stat by mainstream fans for indicating success. It's a stat used by stupid fans. It doesn't make sense and Sale has no control over it.
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 06:06 PM) http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/08/2017...ngs-august.html Can anyone realistically see the Sox signing any of these guys? Overpaying for Michael Saunders and then watching him sit a year on the DL would be par for the course. Let's not forget the three year rule from last offseason will wipe out nearly everyone but Bautista and maybe Trumbo. You do know that the 3 year thing was nonsense, right? Doesn't really need to be mentioned anymore
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 05:39 PM) Let's hope he is a better reliever than Poreda, Ring and Reed. At least Addison had "plus" value where he was selected. Some WAR magician will make him out to be a bargain if he's halfway decent, surely. Let's also hope he is more effective than Carson has been out of the pen or Hahn will look even more foolish since there's no compelling reason to push him at this point...that might have been the case were/with Robertson dealt at the deadline. I used to agree that wasting a 1st rounder on a reliever was bad business but then I saw this year's deadline. Teams are stupid. Did you see the haul received for Giles from Philly in the offseason? Even if out of the bullpen, if Burdi is awesome, he's a very valuable commodity.
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QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 9, 2016 -> 10:49 AM) I know I probably have said this 3-4 times, but I agree. Let's let this group move up together and learn how to win together as a team. I'd like to see Call, Fisher, and Adolfo together in W-S to start next season
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Does anyone think Abreu will opt-out and go to arbitration at the end of the season?
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QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 7, 2016 -> 02:18 PM) Maddow despises Trump and despises Republicans so on and on we go. I haven't watched MSNBC or Fox News in probably 5 years. They are both horrible and an awful place to get news from.
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Going the cheaper route again, White Sox sign Carlos Gomez, Jason Castro, and Adam Lind 1. Eaton RF 2. Cabrera LF 3. Abreu 1B 4. Lind DH 5. Frazier 3B 6. Gomez CF 7. Lawrie 2B 8. Castro C 9. Anderson SS Rotation 1. Sale 2. Quintana 3. Rodon 4. Shields 5. Gonzalez/Fulmer
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QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 6, 2016 -> 01:48 PM) Don't go crazy on him yet. It is rookie ball where he should dominate. Nobody is going crazy. Problem with Soxtalk: Young players struggle in A ball and they automatically are bad picks. Young players do well in rookie ball and it's because it's rookie ball.
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QUOTE (Baron @ Aug 6, 2016 -> 12:36 PM) Ever think that maybe their price is ridiculous and they might never get traded? Or do you just automatically assume that whatever price they are asking for must be correct? There's a reason they will probably both be on the roster during Spring Training. The price is silly and no one wants to pay it. I think Rick Hahn fully understands that and he doesnt actually want to sell them. Plus let's shoot down this whole notion that because more teams are involved that definitely means they'll be traded. There's something called free agency. Now whether you think that talent is scarce in free agency doesnt matter. Free agents only cost money. Chris Sale costs prospects. That's going to hold up the whole process for months. Teams will wait for Hahn to lower his price if he even wants to trade him which I really doubt. They will be the #1 and #2 pitchers available this offseason and it's not close. It's going to take a lot. Why would they trade them for less than that? Lets pretend that barstoolDave's info was accurate. Boston offered Benintendi, Kopech, one of Brian Johnson or Trey Ball and a PTBNL. Lets say the PTBNL was Swihart. Would you have traded Q for Benintendi, Swihart, Ball, and Kopech?
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PiratesVerified account @Pirates 57m57 minutes ago The #Pirates today traded RHP Arquimedes Caminero to the #Mariners for a player to be named later. How did Caminero get through waivers? Tommy Stokke @StokkeTommy 10m10 minutes ago Source: #Marlins acquire #Braves Hunter Cervenka. 51 retweets 18 likes
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QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 6, 2016 -> 11:53 AM) If the reports that JR does not want a rebuild are accurate, this makes it clear what's going to happen next year. Mark Where are these reports? I've actually seen the opposite from Scot Gregor and Matt Spiegel. Both have heard that JR is ready to do it.
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QUOTE (SCCWS @ Aug 6, 2016 -> 10:52 AM) Agree. I think from DD comments, Sale was definitely not for sale. I also think he will not be "tradeable" in the winter as well unless he has another meltdown. Not sure about Q but I think he will be back next year as well. I can see them flipping Melky or Frazier for someone comparable to appear they are involved. It was also stated that Moncada is off limits. They can f*** right off then. People in the media and even Sox fans on this site act like it's not the Sox that have the leverage. Sale and Quintana are the assets. It's not the other way around. I don't understand this thinking that they purposely asked for too much. Any of the packages that were traded at the deadline aren't even close to enough for Sale or Quintana. It's absurd. Sale is owed $39 million over next 3 years. Quintana is owed $40 million over the next 4 and yet there are some on this site (Yes, Baron I'm referring to you) that want to trade for $0.75 on the $1.00 just because they want change. It's a really incredibly stupid thought process.
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Hahn was on with Levine and Esposito today. Tons of lawyer talk as always but a couple of things More suitors for their players in offseason Players on ML rosters available as well as 2016 draft picks Great deal of progress in INTL Scouting Praised Paddy and Hostetler and talked about the recent draft picks while noting the SSS As good as anyone at developing pitching Acknowledged that they were behind the 8 ball with developing position players but noted that they made some changes to correct this a few years back Mentioned guys like: Semien, Trayce, Micah, Phegley who aren't playing for them but allowed them to acquire guys that "could help" them from other organizations Deferred all questions about Robin and the staff to the offseason but it's pretty clear that he won't be back
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QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 5, 2016 -> 03:07 PM) I stand by my comment that he's brilliant. He got no positive coverage because he's Republican IMO. The media did not want to create a new Obama candidate, somebody to take the country by storm. It was Hillary's turn in the media's eyes and they want eight years of Hillary. He's not a nutjob. You can't judge a guy off a few sound bites. No. He got no positive coverage because he's a legit crazy person.
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QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Aug 5, 2016 -> 10:16 PM) Too early to say Hansen is the Sox top pitching prospect? We should probably wait but I think he's firmly a top 100 guy at this time next year and the #1 or #2 prospect in the system.
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QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Aug 5, 2016 -> 10:31 AM) Hey! let's talk something positive about this team --- is it just me or are the giveaways really great this year? Feels like they've stepped up their game from the t-shirt/bobblehead days and are really giving away some cool, practical items. The pullover this weekend? Then the nice looking water bottle Sunday. They are doing a coffee mug a few weeks from now. The White Sox - Socks. White Sox Zubaz. Saw a SICK Blackhawks/Sox scarf that makes me even consider going to the Phillies game on a Tuesday night. http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/schedule/p...ns.jsp?c_id=cws I'll honestly say that I am almost ready to go to some games just for the giveaways - which is the point of the promotion. Maybe bad that they are turning into a minor league team where giveaways and shticks are what are driving my interest, but hey, so be it. Maybe to make this more into a thread -- what has been your favorite thus far this year? Or which are you looking forward to the most? Myself personally? That scarf looks awesome. I want the Sox socks. The Hawaiian shirt was great. Also, maybe I never paid attention in the past, but they've done a great job of having multiple sizes available so you aren't just walking away with an XXL. I'm getting mediums of everything. I usually try to go on most bobblehead days and nights but there haven't been as many this year
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 01:37 PM) The point is Anderson and Saladino cant both be starters....at that ops, so they need yet another player. Saladino isn't a starter. He's a utility guy.
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How much hope should we have for Anderson?
Y2Jimmy0 replied to TheFutureIsNear's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 01:34 PM) Again, not the same. If Anderson showed the ability to walk at a 10% rate in the high minors like Bogearts did then this would indeed be a stupid overreaction thread. But as it stands Bogearts' worst walk% as a pro was still better than Anderson's best. So for those in the no worry crowd...can someone show me some players who maintained long careers with a walk % below 6 and didn't rely on power? Maybe it's more than I think, that's an honest question. I'm not in the no worry crowd. I'm in the we need to wait longer category -
QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 10:53 AM) No way in hell. He'd want to bring in ALL his own staff/coaches. That doesn't play around these parts. Sox only hire desperate people. ------------ I predict Sale has a meltdown at some point calling somebody a naughty word again which will "force" the Sox to trade him (can't abide by insubordination). They will trade him for a youngish position player and a couple of prospects. Add a couple replacement FAs and be "all in" for 2017. They will not trade him for a youngish position player and a couple of prospects unless it's like Mookie Betts, Moncada, and Denintendi
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QUOTE (Rooftop Shots @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 10:37 AM) I DOUBT it, but any chance we would see Gardenhire? Not saying whether he would be good or a disaster. But wondering if experience and availability would factor in to the FO's decision? Got a feeling that the clubhouse may be gettimg tired of having sandlot managers I hope not. I'd rather have almost anyone than Gardenhire. He's a baseball dinosaur.
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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 09:28 AM) Recap posted. Adolfo getting warm. Banks getting it done. .929 OPS for Adolfo over his last 10. Nice.
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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 09:03 AM) Grasu has apparently looked really really good too. Would be nice if some of these young olinemen pan out and can gel with Long. Would be nice to have a younger line, where you should see some continuity and consistency over the years. Yep OL is super young. Massie, Long, Grasu, Whitehair, and Leno
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How much hope should we have for Anderson?
Y2Jimmy0 replied to TheFutureIsNear's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 10:59 AM) The team's #1 hitting prospect and got off to a hot start to cause excitement...but now the warts are really starting to show. I'm sure I'll get some backlash from posters about how young he is and its too early, but there is obviously a really serious issue in his batting approach that isn't just going to go away. I mean, we are talking about a guy who had a sub 5% walk rate in nearly 700 AB's across AA and AAA. So this isn't him adjusting to major league pitching, this is how he plays the game of baseball. Now, thankfully he's a SS who possess an elite speed tool so he doesn't have to be a .300 hitter to be useful, but I'm curious to see where expectations are at this point after getting a look at him. Personally I see him as our everyday SS down the line, but not a reliable top of the order bat like Robin is trying to make him into now. I'll say something like .250/.290/.400 with 30 steals and an above average defender at short....good player to have on the team, but as literally our only hitting prospect (before the '16 draft) worth anything I think it's a key reminder of how sad of shape we really are in He's probably a 7-9 hitter on a really good team. Posts similar to this one and others about Rodon and Fulmer though continue to tell me that this fan base isn't ready for a rebuild. People think that everyone is Chris Sale. This place will be rough during a rebuild
