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QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Aug 17, 2016 -> 02:08 PM) Yes Dick, we know that's what most teams do. All that is going on here at a White Sox fan message board is White Sox fans simply having a debate as to why Jake Burdi was the best player on the team's board at #26. Maybe history will prove out that he was, and maybe it won't. But given that Burdi is a reliever, questioning his pick in the first round is certainly reasonable. I have no idea who Jake Burdi is

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 16, 2016 -> 02:32 PM) What is out there that would indicate KW and JR are stooges and RH is not? He's been part of the operation and decision making process for more than a few years. Rick Hahn has been the proverbial back up QB for years. Always very popular until you actually have to put him in a game. I would argue that Rick Hahn is more of a modern baseball thinker with an eye towards analytics and I'd like to see him get a chance to run Baseball OPS on his own. I could be wrong about my thoughts on that though. I have no idea who is in charge, who makes what decisions, what's true, and what isn't true. I just know that my favorite baseball team is a mess and there doesn't appear to be a clear way to get out of it.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 16, 2016 -> 01:36 PM) Did Hahn give JR an ultimatum? Heard someone ask Kaplan about it No. Kaplan said that Hahn's contract is up after the season. He said that the person he spoke with said that Hahn should give JR an ultimatum. He said this because this person believes that Hahn would get another job in 8 seconds. Maybe not a GM job, but as an Assistant and get another GM job within 2 years. Well respected in the industry.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 15, 2016 -> 09:33 AM) Beck makes the most sense because he was the guy just called up. Turner also just pitched the other day, so he is a possibility too. Turner doesn't have any options.

Kahnle optioned to Charlotte and Albers DFA is my guess.

Good stuff here on Alex Call: http://notesfromthesally.com/2016/08/13/th...l-of-white-sox/

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 8, 2016 -> 07:35 AM) Why is Joey Bosa being a jag and not signing his contract with the Chargers? Dude hasn't played a snap in the NFL and is mad that he got drafted by the Chargers? Please. His mom came out and said that they wish they pulled an Eli Manning. He's not. The Chargers are idiots. They've done this before. They agree on overall value but they want to be able to recoup money if he's hurt or bad. Not going to happen.

I wish they would DFA Albers and bring up Burdi. Give Fulmer the Gonzalez starts.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 12, 2016 -> 11:57 PM) 10+ pages and I haven't seen anyone face this setup from a business aspect. For a comparison - the northside franchise sold for a high price, but because of continued team cost inflation and the seemingly successful rebuilding project, plus playing hardball on renovations, that looks like they've turned that into a strong business asset. So what do the White Sox have? They look to me like an extremely undervalued asset. They are at the bottom of the league in both attendance and in TV ratings, but just like the Cubs - they have a revenue stream that does not die when they lose. The Cubs still fill that ballpark even if they are losers, the White Sox still have the parking lot revenues even when they are losers, and they throw in continued revenue sharing growth. Therefore, they have a franchise that has a large potential market, substantial potential for growth, and a revenue stream that makes it difficult for them to truly lose money even if they make poor decisions. Basically, if they do a terrible job at managing the baseball side of things, they still break even unless they chose not to. Throw in the ability to sign a new TV contract in 3 years and the reality that they're already in one of the oldest ballparks in MLB and if you're a 20-year investor this franchise looks to me like a huge medium- and long-term growth opportunity. You've got multiple revenue streams that could be substantially grown on a 5-year basis - without endorsing him, that's exactly what Cuban did with the Mavericks, taking them from a team averaging 14,000 tickets/game to a team averaging 20,000 tickets/game - a huge boost in interest which corresponded with boosts in media ratings and money. A team averaging 50% of its tickets sold is a bigger revenue growth opportunity than the Mavericks. In the long term, this team has a stable stadium setup for 10 years with a revenue stream that, like the Cubs, supports the franchise even if they're losing, and they then have the ability to gradually start pushing towards a new stadium. While right now Illinois is in no shape to be any part of that, medium-term revenue growth by filling seats and improving the media contracts could be the basis of a multi-year lobbying campaign. That will not be easy, that will take playing politics well, that will take some luck on the state of the Illinois and Chicago budgets, that will not be pretty, but in the 10+ year window the right owner(s) could start getting close. And let's face it, there's a nonzero chance that won't happen. However, if you get in right now and are in baseball's good graces, then if the state of Illinois refuses to set the clock back to before whatever ultimatum you give them, you could be the first franchise to relocate in decades. Right now baseball is hesitant on both expansion and relocation. If the Rays are able to do something about their stadium before their 2027 lease comes up, then it's hard to see which team would actually be a candidate to move. If MLB doesn't expand before that time (something that, as an owner you would have a strong voice in), then markets like Vegas (esp. if the NFL opens it up), Portland, and other markets could be strong candidates to take on the franchise. Finally, again even if they do a terrible job, they have continued growth of franchise value and continued growth of shared revenue streams on top of all that. If I had a couple billion to play with...this franchise would be an extremely tempting asset. The current ownership has been getting by and surviving, but successful franchises are several Ledecky's ahead of them. The Sox are an asset that will not lose money because of established deals and it's an asset that you can project multiple lines of revenue growth over the long term. If you're an effective ownership group, there are billions of dollars of unrecognized revenue potential here. Great post, Balta. I agree with most of this. This team is in Chicago and is in a division with Cleveland, Minnesota, and Kansas City. Sox could be a financial monster if run properly.

The audio is here in the 2nd hour: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/audio/the-boers-bernstein-show/ Sounds like nothing concrete but said rich people think they'll be available soon. He basically said: Lots of people think White Sox will be available relatively soon. Back channel talk among wealthy people wanting to buy Sox. Team valued around $1.1 billion now. They speculated that a new stadium in the loop with the skyline in the background pushes it near $2 million.

Alec Hansen is pitching for Great Falls tonight.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 01:03 PM) Because Sale could have 20 wins and is going for the Cy Young. I know SABR stats overshadow wins but it is still a used stat by mainstream fans for indicating success. It's a stat used by stupid fans. It doesn't make sense and Sale has no control over it.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 06:06 PM) http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/08/2017...ngs-august.html Can anyone realistically see the Sox signing any of these guys? Overpaying for Michael Saunders and then watching him sit a year on the DL would be par for the course. Let's not forget the three year rule from last offseason will wipe out nearly everyone but Bautista and maybe Trumbo. You do know that the 3 year thing was nonsense, right? Doesn't really need to be mentioned anymore

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 05:39 PM) Let's hope he is a better reliever than Poreda, Ring and Reed. At least Addison had "plus" value where he was selected. Some WAR magician will make him out to be a bargain if he's halfway decent, surely. Let's also hope he is more effective than Carson has been out of the pen or Hahn will look even more foolish since there's no compelling reason to push him at this point...that might have been the case were/with Robertson dealt at the deadline. I used to agree that wasting a 1st rounder on a reliever was bad business but then I saw this year's deadline. Teams are stupid. Did you see the haul received for Giles from Philly in the offseason? Even if out of the bullpen, if Burdi is awesome, he's a very valuable commodity.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 9, 2016 -> 10:49 AM) I know I probably have said this 3-4 times, but I agree. Let's let this group move up together and learn how to win together as a team. I'd like to see Call, Fisher, and Adolfo together in W-S to start next season

Does anyone think Abreu will opt-out and go to arbitration at the end of the season?

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 7, 2016 -> 02:46 PM) You can thank JR and the extra suites he had to have to make upper deck so bad, when builders told him not a good idea at the time. I actually like the Upper Deck. It's not 29th. That's a joke.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 7, 2016 -> 02:18 PM) Maddow despises Trump and despises Republicans so on and on we go. I haven't watched MSNBC or Fox News in probably 5 years. They are both horrible and an awful place to get news from.

Going the cheaper route again, White Sox sign Carlos Gomez, Jason Castro, and Adam Lind 1. Eaton RF 2. Cabrera LF 3. Abreu 1B 4. Lind DH 5. Frazier 3B 6. Gomez CF 7. Lawrie 2B 8. Castro C 9. Anderson SS Rotation 1. Sale 2. Quintana 3. Rodon 4. Shields 5. Gonzalez/Fulmer

QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 6, 2016 -> 01:48 PM) Don't go crazy on him yet. It is rookie ball where he should dominate. Nobody is going crazy. Problem with Soxtalk: Young players struggle in A ball and they automatically are bad picks. Young players do well in rookie ball and it's because it's rookie ball.

QUOTE (Baron @ Aug 6, 2016 -> 12:36 PM) Ever think that maybe their price is ridiculous and they might never get traded? Or do you just automatically assume that whatever price they are asking for must be correct? There's a reason they will probably both be on the roster during Spring Training. The price is silly and no one wants to pay it. I think Rick Hahn fully understands that and he doesnt actually want to sell them. Plus let's shoot down this whole notion that because more teams are involved that definitely means they'll be traded. There's something called free agency. Now whether you think that talent is scarce in free agency doesnt matter. Free agents only cost money. Chris Sale costs prospects. That's going to hold up the whole process for months. Teams will wait for Hahn to lower his price if he even wants to trade him which I really doubt. They will be the #1 and #2 pitchers available this offseason and it's not close. It's going to take a lot. Why would they trade them for less than that? Lets pretend that barstoolDave's info was accurate. Boston offered Benintendi, Kopech, one of Brian Johnson or Trey Ball and a PTBNL. Lets say the PTBNL was Swihart. Would you have traded Q for Benintendi, Swihart, Ball, and Kopech?

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QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 6, 2016 -> 11:53 AM) If the reports that JR does not want a rebuild are accurate, this makes it clear what's going to happen next year. Mark Where are these reports? I've actually seen the opposite from Scot Gregor and Matt Spiegel. Both have heard that JR is ready to do it.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Aug 6, 2016 -> 10:52 AM) Agree. I think from DD comments, Sale was definitely not for sale. I also think he will not be "tradeable" in the winter as well unless he has another meltdown. Not sure about Q but I think he will be back next year as well. I can see them flipping Melky or Frazier for someone comparable to appear they are involved. It was also stated that Moncada is off limits. They can f*** right off then. People in the media and even Sox fans on this site act like it's not the Sox that have the leverage. Sale and Quintana are the assets. It's not the other way around. I don't understand this thinking that they purposely asked for too much. Any of the packages that were traded at the deadline aren't even close to enough for Sale or Quintana. It's absurd. Sale is owed $39 million over next 3 years. Quintana is owed $40 million over the next 4 and yet there are some on this site (Yes, Baron I'm referring to you) that want to trade for $0.75 on the $1.00 just because they want change. It's a really incredibly stupid thought process.