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Sox have some pool money left to use tomorow on a guy or two?

He hasn't signed yet though. Just agreed to terms which is great. I don't think he could actually play for Miami this weekend otherwise.

My guess for tonight's lineup: 1. Eaton RF 2. Jackson CF 3. Cabrera LF 4. Frazier 3B 5. Abreu 1B 6. Lawrie 2B 7. Shuck DH 8. Avila C 9. Anderson SS

Can someone put wsdave's latest tweet in this thread? I can't get to twitter on my work computer.

User Actions Following whitesoxdave ‏@barstoolWSD Hearing whispers that Rollins may be on his way out with the #WhiteSox FWIW Anderson was off tonight in Charlotte

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jun 9, 2016 -> 06:19 PM) So he is out till after the All Star game. Then he will need at least a couple weeks in Charlotte seeing live pitching which means around August 1st. Can he manage the team until he is ready??? NO. He's heading out on a rehab soon. Should be playing for Sox after ASB

User Actions Following Scot Gregor ‏@scotgregor Hahn on Ventura's status: "I don't think you've ever seen me telegraph any move." #WhiteSox Not exactly a ringing endorsement

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 9, 2016 -> 03:09 PM) If you didn't, wouldn't he be open to waivers when we send him back down? Yes, but if it were short-term wouldn't they just call up Carroll or something?

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 9, 2016 -> 02:59 PM) Guessing Tyler gets a night in the big leagues. They wouldn't put him on the 40 to do that though would they?

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/182933128/op...-mlb-mock-draft Callie: Blake Rutherford and Gavin Lux Mayo: Justin Dunn and Eric Lauer

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:22 PM) #27 is not highly rated. No good. Okay. Now back to the thread. If #27 is no good, and the Sox aren't on any top 30s, what does that say about the Williams/Hahn effort on the international front this year? I agree with the premise here. I don't care at all that they traded Tatis Jr for Shields. It is a joke that they aren't going nuts internationally though. It's just a mode of acquiring talent that JR doesn't really value. It's unfortunate.

Tim Anderson Jr.Verified account ‏@TimAnderson7 Let's Go... Very cryptic. Probably nothing.

Things aren't going well but this lineup is much better than the current one: 1. A. Eaton RF 2. J. Abreu 1B 3. M. Cabrera LF 4. T. Frazier 3B 5. J. Bruce DH 6. B. Lawrie 2B 7. A. Avila C 8. A. Jackson CF 9. T. Anderson Bench C D. Navarro IF T. Saladino OF C. Coghlan IF/OF L. Garcia Yes, I traded for Jay Bruce and Chris Coghlan. Coghlan has been awful but this team is terrible vs RHP and needs to do something. I'd love someone like Will Smith for the bullpen as well. D. Robertson RHP N. Jones RHP W. Smith LHP Z. Duke LHP J. Petricka RHP Z. Putnam RHP Another RH Starters 1. C. Sale 2. J. Quintana 3. J. Shields 4. C. Rodon 5. M. Gonzalez This team is solid on paper and it can be done. It'd need to happen soon though.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 11:29 PM) After tonight: May 10--June 7 Cle 17-11 (3-1 vs Sox) Det 16-11 (3-0 vs Sox) KC 15-12 ( 5-1 vs Sox) Sox 6-19 If Sox could have just played .500 ball they'd be in great shape.

QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 06:44 AM) Callis was on the Score. Sox dream scenario will be drafting Ray, but probably won't fall. Most likely Rutherford or Dunn. Sox been having a lot people watching Dunn. Huge helium. Also, mentioned Lux will not be there at 26. Will have to take him at #10 if they really want him. Many teams are now on Lux from picks #13-24. Rutherford would be ideal for me. Looks like a Jim Edmonds type offensive profile but in an OF corner. I'd live with Dunn though slightly below slot.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 05:49 AM) blah blah blah with with the first part. Players not performing, players non-existent, the Sox haven't been hit with injuries, yada yada, the Sox are underperforming. However, I have watched Robin Ventura manage the last 4 years. Compared to a guy like Ozzie Guillen, he has been a breath of fresh air. He pays attention, he manages by the book, almost too religiously, he controls his clubhouse. If the clubhouse feels that they have overwhelmed their manager at this point, then someone is going to be let go. At some point though, as a manager, you have to know your employees and what they can do. Caulfield, have you ever been a manager in any manner in your entire life? As in, you could hire and fire. It's not that I try and be an "elitist" in saying that I am a manager now (because it sucks), but I've been there, and when someone is not doing something you want, and you have to talk to them, it sucks. Imagine doing that with 200x the ego. Fire Robin Ventura and then bring in Rick Renteria so we can what? Win more? Maybe Jose should hit better. Maybe Albers should pitch better. Maybe Robertson shouldn't get lit up with a 6 run lead. But naturally, that's Ventura's fault. This is basically what I've been saying. I haven't seen you around in awhile, wite. Welcome back.

QUOTE (scotty22hotty @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 11:04 PM) Basically a left handed Avi. A massive upgrade at DH but a large enough downgrade at RF that he should never play on the field. Only makes sense if Avi is then traded for relief help. Amazing this guy hasn't tried moving to 1B. Bruce has an OPS of over .900 and multiple good seasons in the past. He's nothing like Avisail Garcia

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 10:05 PM) If they trade Tim Anderson for anyone at this point, that's the very last straw. Thankfully, they already have Cozart at that position. And, if we're buying Bruce, we might as well bring Devin Mesoraco over as well and try to "fix" him. Take half of the farm system, it doesn't really matter anymore at this point. Just becoming almost a comedic situation, where everything Hahn was trying to accomplish in 2013 has just been completely thrown out the window. They really didn't know that Avisail Garcia was going to be a problem coming into this season as a starter? They basically made Garcia a platoon player though. They knew what he is. He was going to start at DH vs LHP.

QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 09:56 PM) This sounds like executives thinking short-term instead of long-term. Hahn feels some pressure, maybe not job-status pressure, but pressure to not be revealed as being an awful GM. No reason to be buyers in any capacity at the deadline. Trade Robertson, trade Melky and pack it in. No one watching this team would ever come to a conclusion that they should be acquiring players. Please fire Hahn, Kenny, Buddy Bell, RV, and the entire minor league instruction staff. Now I'll veer back into reality... It really has nothing to do with Rick Hahn. Jerry Reinsdorf wants to add so they'll be adding. This concept is somehow really hard for people to figure out though.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 09:28 PM) Team is struggling in every aspect. Saladino just did his best Alex Gonzalez in the Bartman game impression They did score 5 runs tonight. They have to win those games.

Hopefully they take on all of the money and give up less in return

Zach Duke did very well for himself.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 04:28 PM) another nugget Chuck Garfien ‏@ChuckGarfien 22s23 seconds ago Hahn on Tim Anderson: "In all probability, he's going to have to spend a year in Charlotte..He's done his part to force up that time frame." Lawyer talk

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 01:16 AM) The Royals hit in the draft with Gordon, Hosmer, Duffy and Moustakas. Hochevar eventually became an effective reliever. But look at their last 20-30 years of draft picks. It's beyond terrible. Worse than the White Sox developing position players terrible. Think Colon, Zimmer and Bubba Starling. They kicked our butts in Latin American development. Getting a franchise catcher in Salvy Perez, as well as Escobar (Ventura would surely be leading off with him, or #2 despite his 500's OPS and lousy OBP "because he's fast"), Yordano Ventura and Herrera, the best 8th inning guy west of Betances/Miller. Hit with the Wade Davis and Shields acquisition to turn the team's belief in itself around and discovered the best closer in the AL in a failed starter. Then they made a series of really smart and budget conscious free agents moves: Edinson Volquez, Madson (who they should have kept instead of adding Soria), Chris Young, Blanton, Kendrys Morales, Gomes (clubhouse/leadership/cheerleader), Medlen. Rios, of course was a disaster, as we all know. And then part four, they had the depth to trade for Shields/Davis, for Cueto and Zobrist....in Lamb, Montgomery, Sean Manaea, Finnegan, Odorrizi, Wil Myers, etc. Without all those key elements, they wouldn't have been nearly so successful. And Yost was the perfect manager for that team at the right time for the franchise, as it was transitioning from development to "winning now." Escobar was acquired from Milwaukee in the Greinke deal

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 03:07 AM) Any of those are fine to show they've all hit similarly. And again, how do people think a .728 OPS in AAA is going to translate in the majors right now for this not-good-at-defense shortstop? And anyone who is honestly clamoring for Anderson must be convinced that Jason Coats, bringing his .966 OPS to Chicago, will be an MVP candidate. I think people are looking at Anderson's last 6 weeks instead of his whole season because he typically starts extremely slow.