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QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 26, 2014 -> 11:11 AM) To me, the main thing Wong has (other than LH bat, which is important) is not so much talent as it is track record. Semien's never been bad, but he's only spent a few months on the legitimate prospect radar. Too much uncertainty. And he's not on STL, NY, or Boston.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Jan 26, 2014 -> 12:22 PM) http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/01/al-c...ins-tigers.html Apparently Ervin Santana's price may have dropped all the way to 3/40M. Everybody still horribly against a 3 year deal? It doesn't matter what we think. Rick Hahn has made it clear that the Sox won't be doing anything that costs them a draft pick. Guys like Santana get screwed by the new system.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 05:16 PM) Speaking of Jonah Hill and the Wolf of Wall Street, not only did Jonah demand that he have to audition for a part in the movie, but he accepted "the lowest possible pay" he could for the movie. He made something like $60K for this movie! http://www.avclub.com/article/jonah-hill-w...oney-pos-107191 Hill said if he is making great movies, he is fine just being able to pay rent and have a family. I read some things that referenced the fact that Scorsese is Hill's all time favorite Director. He said that Goodfellas is his all time favorite film and he'd basically do anything for Marty.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 07:24 PM) LOL. Yeah, have to agree there. I have seen two writers say they prefer Semien to Wong. I believe they were Keith Law and Kiley McDaniel but don't quote me on that. There's probably a White Sox-Cardinals bias there too. Cardinals turn marginal prospects (Craig and Carpenter) into great players and the White Sox turn marginal hitting prospects into absolutely nothing. Here was Jonathan Mayo's response to me: Jonathan Mayo ‏@JonathanMayoB3 10h @JamesFox917 @jimcallis His tools don't measure up. I like him, but Wongs tools much better

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 05:57 PM) That's bulls***. You only hurt your own credibility when you make comments like that. I've been going to SoxFest every year minus 2-3 since 1999. Every year I meet great people. Just because a couple of meatheads boo Dunn and Ventura that doesn't make the attendees idiots. Not everyone spends their free time at night/at work/at school/at home/ in waiting rooms reading about the Sox like some of us. That doesn't give you the right to act like you're some elite fan. I tried to conjure up a reply but I just don't have the energy. I'll just sit here and continue to be elite with no credibility.

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 03:50 PM) This is hilarious, lets all act shocked when common fans are angry at a player who's been vastly overpaid for the past three years and call him out at the one time of the year the fans get to interact in some ways with the players. It would be shocking if they didn't ridicule him in the situation. It's not my cup of tea to do that, but I don't feel bad in the least. Especially not since at the end of the day, he's still making millions to play a game. I actually agree with Marty in a sense that I'm surprised Dunn hasn't been dumped yet just to appease the casual fan. I do however think Dunn and Konerko can make a solid platoon. But I still don't see how it's going to be flexible to have Konerko, Dunn, De Aza, Viciedo, and Keppinger all on this roster how it currently is. Exactly. And if you are at a fan convention, you are most likely an idiot. Just the way it goes. Players go to those things to hook up with broads.

Doug Padilla ‏@ESPNChiSox 8m Hahn admits No. 3 draft pick in June probably will be spent on pitching. Four of top five guys available, as of now, are pitchers.

How is Kolten Wong at #58 overall and Marcus Semien isn't even in the top 100? Semien may actually be a better player than Wong is. Doesn't make any sense.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 07:43 AM) I'm sure he is looking at those options, but teams aren't just sitting there willing to trade top catching prospects cheaply. Hahn shouldn't be giving up the farm for a catcher. A catcher probably isn't putting the 2014 Sox over the top anyway, so sit tight and wait for a good deal. Exactly. I am sure he has talked about numerous possibilities for a catcher long-term. It will be expensive though as far as the talent cost in trade. If you could get a young catcher with 6 years of control for De Aza and Rienzo I think it'd be done already. I bet most teams have asked for Quintana or Erik Johnson though.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 08:44 AM) Draft picks aren't the only way, or I'd argue the best way to build, at least not for the Sox. It's going to take a long time to build that farm system up Sox fans aren't going to sit through that. Look what has happened with the Astros getting beat in the ratings by a WNBA game. The Sox aren't going to the Astros extent in rebuilding, but they do have the Cubs to compete with. The Cubs farm system is stacked which is one reason why I believe the Sox chose ML-ready prospects in trades. The Sox can't afford to fall behind them in terms of Major League talent which could very well happen once the Cubs prospects start making it to the majors. For that reason, the focus for the Sox has to be on the big league level right now. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. That 2nd round fee it would cost for Jimenez, along with the big spenders not being interested, will keep his price down and you can recoup the value of the pick by dealing from rotation depth next offseason. With the system that the Astros have, those fans are about to jump back on board. Houston is going to be relevant again soon. Their system is stacked and they will also have money to spend.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 12:36 AM) Homer Bailey has to be a target next season if the reds don't extend him. On the starting catcher front I'm not seeing much next year as well... We're likely to get our catcher via trade IMO. Wouldn't be surprised if it's Yasmani Grandal after Hedges reaches the ML. Sox supposedly loved him when he came out.

Jesse Sanchez ‏@JesseSanchezMLB 5h Source: Cuban RHP Odrisamer Despaigne cleared by OFAC & can sign. Held 2 showcases in MX this month & might have one more before he signs. Jesse Sanchez ‏@JesseSanchezMLB 5h I'm told several of the clubs that were interested in signing Tanaka also expressed interest in Odrisamer Despaigne. Plan B? Despaigne has a 80 name on the 20/80 scale but from reports I've read he doesn't sound like a huge impact guy. He's known for being a workhouse in Cuba and has solid numbers. He is 26 years old and is represented by old friend Jaime Torres. Ben Badler said that he is "fringy and might be a bullpen guy". I wonder if the White Sox will have any interest. It shouldn't be crazy money.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 24, 2014 -> 04:24 PM) Honestly, if some team grew infatuated with him, Johnson is a guy I'd move right away. I just don't think he has a particularly high ceiling. I think his upside is a guy like Chone Figgins, and more likely, a utility player and pinch runner. I agree with this. He seems like a guy that they are really pumping up as well. Sometimes they don't do that with the guys that they love. Micah is at Soxfest as a AA 2B.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 24, 2014 -> 03:42 PM) I predict Soxtalk freaks out during his first slump. Are you kidding me? Soxtalk will consider him a bust if he goes 0-4 on opening day.

This thread is awful. There are really people that think the Sox should sign a veteran starting pitcher? I wouldn't sign one, let alone give up a draft pick and the overall draft $$ to do it. It doesn't make any sense. I am glad that Rick Hahn agrees with me and this topic has been rendered as pointless.

QUOTE (IowanSoxFan @ Jan 24, 2014 -> 02:47 PM) I'm somewhere between "I like this" and "don't really care", but I don't dislike it. I agree with this. As long as Robin stops giving away so many outs I am fine with it. Stop with the sacrifice bunting in early innings and it's fine.

http://www.bleachernation.com/2014/01/24/c...r-yenier-bello/ This is a Cubs article but does anyone think that the Sox may have interest in this guy? He's already 28 though.

Sounds like Garza to the Brewers for 4 years $52 million. Balfour is also signing with the Rays. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 10:34 PM) As far as I'm concerned, this thread still involves the White Sox until I know the ballpark of what we offered Multiple baseball writers reported that every offer was in the 6 year $120 million range as a starting point. Don't know how true that is.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 11:09 AM) I think it would be better to address the rotation this year in an effort to save money. As shown by the Tanaka pursuit, it's going to be difficult to get a true top-of-the-rotation via free-agency. If Jimenez is terrible at least he'll be relatively cheap. For what reason? There is no reason to spend money on a free agent pitcher. They would have done it with Tanaka because he's 25. There is absolutely no reason to sign a Jimenez or Garza type so that the team can win 72-75 games. Unless the players acquired fit the long term plan, Hahn will not be making a deal. He has made this clear numerous times. The Sox are not planning on winning this season regardless of what they say publicly.

Yeah I wanted the guy but not for 7 at $155. That's nuts.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jan 19, 2014 -> 10:28 AM) BTW does any one know if Tanaka and Kershaw have the same agent? I read somewhere they did and that Tanaka was a part of the discussions during the Kershaw deal as far as back loading his deal, with the hopes of landing Tabaka. Yes. Casey Close is the agent for both players as well as Greinke I think.

I know that it's cliche around here but I am just glad that they are involved. It will come down to what Tanaka wants now. I don't want the Sox to overpay for him either. Decide how much he is worth to you and offer that amount while selling him on the fact that they have a decent young core with a good pitching staff in a big market city. That may not be enough. He may have his heart set on LAD or even Arizona. If he takes the most $$ it sounds like it will be the Cubs. Getting him would be huge but I am fine either way. I am glad that the White Sox are acting like a big market club and having the conversation at least.

Ty Youngfelt ‏@TyYoungfelt 4h Hearing Dodgers unlikely to match Cubs offer, instead using geographical, team strength issues as selling points to bridge gap... Ty Youngfelt ‏@TyYoungfelt 1h As of a week ago, Yankees have lowest bid, D'Backs, Dodgers within +/- 8M of each other...hearing Yanks adjusted/matched-Cubs +20-30 over Ty Youngfelt ‏@TyYoungfelt 1h To clarify- Yankees matched D'Backs offer of 115, not Cubs offer... Ty Youngfelt ‏@TyYoungfelt 40m @MudderFudder77 Have not heard nothing on Sox, at all, have the $ tho... This guy writes for the Pioneer Press and has had info in the past.

Does anyone find it strange that Viciedo was not mentioned in this hitting camp? I would assume that he'd be there with Abreu, Davidson, and Eaton.