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That was f***ing awesome. Eminem is a f***ing boss for calling out Trump like that. It’s going to be absolutely hilarious when Trump tries to call Marshall washed up or something.

QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Oct 9, 2017 -> 11:43 PM) Guys, I can't wait anymore for the Bears to find a damn QB, because I don't think that Trubisky is going to be that guy. Usually, when a player has the "It Factor" you know right away. I didn't see it from Trubisky. There were no "wow" moments. Contrary to popular belief, I saw a guy who was overwhelmed at the NFL level. I think everyone, all across the country has been doing sports wrong since the invention of the national TV contracts. Who says that "you root for the name on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back" I now disagree. You root for the best talent in sports to do great things on the biggest stages, no matter what laundry they wear. Who says I have to "dislike/hate" Aaron Rodgers? he is one of the best QBs to ever play the game. If the guy doesn't wear the laundry from my home town, who cares? These are the best players. Obviously it is easier to follow hometown teams, because of cable packages, etc. BUT, I think there is no reason to go through the misery of watching your hometown team suck for years, and somehow if they win it all once that is supposed to make it better. "You can't do that, you are being a bandwagoner" Counterpoint: I enjoy the sport, and I also enjoy great players being great. I can't tie my allegiances to one team anymore. I root for the name on the back, not on the front now. In the age of National TV contracts, and sports packages there is no need to tie yourself to one team. Rooting for the name on the front of the jersey is an antiquated philosophy of sports fandom. Just enjoy Football/Baseball/Basketball/Hockey and learn to recognize and enjoy greatness when you see it. And if it comes from Green Bay, Minnesota, Detroit, New York, wherever.........who cares? Sports was meant to be entertainment, and I want to be entertained, not have increased stress in my life. Everyone needs to relax and have fun. Life is too short to wait for your hometown team to win. /end rant Wow, I pretty much hate this entire post. Saying a third overall pick doesn’t have the “it” factor after one game is one of the hottest takes I have ever seen on this board. And if you don’t want to cheer for a specific team then maybe you should leave this White Sox message board and stick to ESPN highlights. You’ll see plenty of “greatness” there...

Greatest 2-point conversion in NFL history?

Awesome fake punt, but why don’t you go for two there?

I apologize for meatballing it up in here, but good god this WR core sucks.

I hate Wheaton so f***ing much, what a worthless piece of s***.

I still can’t believe Pace didn’t add one high-end and/or proven WR.

Well that was stupid. Glad Fox thinks it’s funny.

Hot take alert, but Mitch looks f***ing awesome. Makes those Glennon starts even more painful.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 03:17 PM) I'm pretty sure if you were able to guarantee all families would always be safe and no innocent person would ever be shot or harmed in any way, which obviously could never happen, all people would have to do is turn in every gun they owned, millions would refuse. 100% without question.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 03:15 PM) People used it as an example of how social norms and pressure can change to take down a well-funded operation a la big tobacco, not that guns are cigarettes. Jenks was saying how the way big tobacco acted was uniquely different because of their lies and product others were showing the similarities. Not that an outrageous of an argument. Gotcha, don’t disagree there.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 11:31 AM) Rates matter. AT some point something may pose such a higher risk you choose differently. We don't have great data for those risk rates for the last 20 years. While I agree with what you’re saying, the vast majority of people will not get rid of theirs guns at home no matter what the data says.

Tobacco is a completely different monster than guns and I can’t believe people are arguing otherwise.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 02:06 PM) They have trap shooting at OPCC, but im not much of a rifle guy quite yet, I've only trained with my 9MM and my shotgun. Anything has to be better than that tiny little BS range they have, its awful. I am nervous every minute that I am in there. Trap shooting with a rifle?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 10:27 AM) Me neither but due to the team he is on, it's similar to Q for me where I want him to do well personally but want a first round exit from the Red Sox. I can respect that, just hate the Astros more

I love me some Chris Sale. His antics may have been a bit annoying, but he loved playing on the south side and seemed like a very loyal teammate. I will never root against him to justify the trade we made.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 05:15 PM) I'd be happy with a buy-back program where you get $1K for every gun you turn in. Then ban them altogether. The black market would dwindle and we can eliminate one of the greatest causes of death in this country. Yeah it's a pipe dream that would never happen, but I have yet to hear a reason why it shouldn't. People treating guns like it's the equivalent of oxygen or water and we would wither away without them. Good god, people like you are the reason we can’t make any progress with gun controls in this country.

I don’t get why this has to turn into a partisan issue. EVERYONE should want these mass shootings to stop. Anyone arguing that some additional gun control measures wouldn’t help limit the frequency of or at very least the amount of carnage caused by these events, to some extent, has clearly been brainwashed by the NRA & those in the government on its payroll. Also, WTF is the rationalization for making silencers legal? I don’t follow politics that closely, but I can’t think of a more blatant example of lobbyist corruption in my entire life. I honestly hope there is a special place in hell for scum like Jeff Duncan and anyone who supports this bill.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Oct 3, 2017 -> 05:41 PM) The fact this guys has never been a "gun guy" or showed any interest in guns...had zero military or training background (this all according to his brother)...and all of a sudden has tens of thousands of dollars of weapons and ammo....that doesn't seem ultra strange to people? Hell...I still don't buy the Aurora, CO shooting...just too many eye witness accounts and things that didn't add up. This story is starting to sound like one of those IMO. Like I said...I just don't subscribe to Occams Razor. And things like this happen...and all it does is open up the doors for lefties and people like Kimmell to take their public soap box and blame Republicans to try and stir the masses. Good luck.... Mind elaborating on why you don’t “buy” the Aurora, CO shooting?

While I’d most definitely pass on Stanton, the projected 2020 lineup is tantalizing: 1. Robert, CF 2. Moncada, 3. Stanton, RF 4. Abreu, DH 5. Jimenez, LF 6. Collins, C 7. Burger, 3B 8. Sheets/FA, 1B 9. Anderson, SS

Jason Goff on the WSCR right now claiming the Bulls are talking about extending Gar but also Paxson possibly firing him? Even Bernstein doesn’t know what to make of Goff’s comments. Regardless, the thought of Gar getting an extension is beyond terrifying.

I'd rate year one of the rebuild an 8. From a talent acquisition standpoint, I'd give us a 9 or 10. In the past 12 months, we've acquired five-end pitching prospects in Kopech, Giolito, Lopez, Dunning, & Cease and four high-end positional prospects in Moncada, Jimenez, Rutherford, & Robert. In addition, they acquired another half-dozen interesting prospects in Basabe, Puckett, Gillaspie, Cordell, Clarkin, & Polo. Overall, I think Hahn did an awesome job moving his assets for value, demonstrating incredible patience that helped ensure his price was met. I'll admit I was a little disappointed with the Yankees trade (like everyone else), but overall it's hard not to be happy with the amount talent brought in. And this does not include the potential impact of the 2017 draft, which is way too early to evaluate but will hopefully be a strong one. Having said that, from a development standpoint I can only give this year a 7. Don't get me wrong, there were definitely many pluses. At the major league level, several key young guys came up in Moncada, Giolito, & Lopez and showed signs of what they will hopefully become. Guys like Sanchez & Leury look like legit major leaguers, even if they ultimately end up in reserve roles. Delmonico was simply awesome in his 40 game audition and looks like he might be a legit piece going forward. And this doesn't even include Abreu & Avi who both had spectacular years and could be part of our next competitive or be used to add more talent to the system. However, there were also some negatives this year and those start with Anderson & Rodon, two of our most important building blocks. While Tim definitely turned things around the last couple months, his overall 2017 season is very ugly. Not the type of result you want to see from what should be a key young cog and a kid that just signed a long-term deal. Carlos' season is disappointment primarily due to injuries. At times he flashed that legit ace potential, but he was once again inconsistent. As for the farm, 2017 was definitely a mixed bag. Kopech, Hansen, & Dunning made huge strides on the pitching side, while Adams & Guerrero had nice rebound seasons. Eloy was insane after he came over, Adolfo made some serious strides despite his flaws, & Zavala put himself on the map as legit catching prospect. Unfortunately there was still quite a bit of bad. Fulmer was a disaster, Burdi got injured, and several important positional prospects regressed in Fisher, Call, & Basabe. Collins had a mixed season, showing an incredible mix of power & patience for a catcher, but real bat to ball concerns. And the LatAm program continues to struggle IMO, providing minimal impact to our full season ball teams. I apologize for the lengthy post, but despite how happy we should all be with where the rebuild is at, I think it's important to highlight the player development issues the organization is still battling.

Why?

I think he’d get slightly less than Robert if you include the penalties, so probably around $45M or so.

If Maitan was declared a free agent, would he count against international signing caps? I know that recent draft picks that were awarded free agency were completely unrestricted.