Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 16, 2018 -> 09:16 PM) Engel has nine lives We still have Leury though. I hope Engel gets the Jacob May treatment if he doesn’t show major improvement by the end of the month.

1. Moncada, 2B 2. A. Garcia, RF 3. Abreu, 1B 4. Davidson, DH 5. Delmonico, LF 6. Castillo, C 7. Sanchez, 2B 8. Anderson, SS 9. Engel, CF

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Apr 16, 2018 -> 04:12 PM) <!--quoteo(post=3609165:date=Apr 16, 2018 -> 02:30 PM:name=Chicago White Sox)-->QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 16, 2018 -> 02:30 PM) <!--quotec-->I feel pretty confident we’re drafting a college bat. Unless Mize somehow falls to us, I expect the pick to be Bohm, Madrigal, or Swaggerty. On that note, I saw this earlier: Does Madrigal really have a red flag? His size could potentially limit his upside, but he’s seems about as safe of a prospect as they come.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Apr 16, 2018 -> 10:47 AM) Draft Q&A with Hostetler in the Athletic: https://theathletic.com/316076/2018/04/16/q...ng-to-get-cute/ I feel pretty confident we’re drafting a college bat. Unless Mize somehow falls to us, I expect the pick to be Bohm, Madrigal, or Swaggerty.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Apr 16, 2018 -> 01:06 PM) I wonder if he's recognizing that they're sliders and is having trouble fighting them off or if his pitch recognition is just wrong. It’s a good question. Based on comments from both Ricky & Yoan, it sounds like there may be mechanical issues at play. And I’d prefer that over an inability to recognize the pitch.

QUOTE (reiks12 @ Apr 16, 2018 -> 12:20 PM) im tired of the cold excuse, there are plenty of young players who are doing well in similar conditions I’m sure the cold is a small part of it, but the bigger issues presently are his general struggles batting right-handed and his inability to recognize and/or make contact with sliders. He’s swinging & missing on a whopping 52% of breaking balls this year and the vast majority of those have been sliders. Teams have noticed as the percentage of sliders thrown to him has increased by nearly 10% this year. Warmer temperatures aren’t going to help much with those issues.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Apr 16, 2018 -> 09:44 AM) Moncada still hasn't any stolen base attempts. And that needs to be addressed ASAP. No reason Yoan shouldn’t swipe 20 to 30 bases a year.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Apr 16, 2018 -> 09:16 AM) Why do they insist on giving Courtney Hawkins ABs? It’s bizarre, but I feel like minor league managers do s*** like this. I’d have Collins & Zavala start pretty much everyday and rotate between C & DH.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Apr 16, 2018 -> 01:52 AM) On the White Sox Talk podcast, they said the plan was to get him 100 ABs, and then go to surgery. I'm wondering if it will coincide with Robert's return to W-S. Those guys were simply trying recollect what Hahn said and I believe they were wrong. Hahn said at least a couple hundred at-bats for Micker if surgery was needed and it doesn’t appear that has been decided yet.

QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Apr 16, 2018 -> 12:18 AM) Talent wise, Clarkin is arguably ahead of Dunning, but hopefully he can stay healthy. We are in a pretty good position, especially if Rodon comes back strong. How is Clarkin talent wise ahead of Dunning? I really don’t get where these insanely pro assentments of Clarkin are coming from. He never dominated High A like Dunning did for long stretches last year. The stuff is most definitely worse and the command is at best the same. I get Clarkin is left-handed and a former first round pick, but I’ll take Dane’s talents over his any day of the week and it’s not even close IMO.

QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Apr 16, 2018 -> 12:05 AM) That wasn't the point. The point was the evaluation of that trade shouldn't be Sale for 6.5 years of Moncada and Kopech, when history may show other options were better. Also, I said the trade needed to happen as it did and we shouldn't regret it no matter the results. So you’re re arguing against no one now because that last sentence was my main point.

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 11:59 PM) I don't think so. Most of the prospects analysts were super high on Cease even when he wasn't performing. I think we were all lower on him than we should have been even if we thought he was going to be good. I’m talking about Clarkin. Right now, I think one of the Adams, Stephens, or Guerrero trio is far more likely to get a look if a spot opened in our major league rotation. That could change at some point this season but two starts isn’t going to radically move the needle with Clarkin. He needs to prove he can handle more advanced hitters while also remaining durable over the course of a full minor league season.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 11:00 PM) Can we argue that Clarkin is now ahead of Guerrero/Stephens as the next starter in line after Dunning? 1) Kopech 2A) Cease 2B) Hansen (I know some will argue it's not quite fair to jump Cease up so quickly, but...) 3) Dunning 4) Clarkin 5/6) Guerrero or Stephens I think you’re overreacting to two good starts.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 10:17 PM) Clarkin is a lefty starter who has looked really solid so far in his 2 starts. Polo could be a 4th OF. This trade is looking like a big time win. And there’s the jinx. Thank god you didn’t mention Blake, maybe he’ll return to blue chip form now.

QUOTE (onedude @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 09:03 PM) so anyone interested in the supposed best game ever? God of War has a ton of perfect reviews...I could do with a new 40 hour game. Been hovering between F1, MLB the Show, and Ghost Recon Wildlands. I pre-ordered it. It will be my next game after Far Cary 5. Will have to see if it can live up to the hype.

I just don’t see a need to be aggressive with Adolfo. Booker & Call are 24 & 23 respectively and will likely be pushed ahead of Micker no matter the results. And while Basabe is also 21 like Micker, he’s also spent quite a bit of time in High A and should also be prioritized in terms of promotion. I think best case scenario for Adolfo is getting a brief stint with Birmingham to end the season and that’s assuming he does not require surgery.

QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 04:01 PM) It needed to be stated because the incidental implication of the post was that 6.5 years of Yoan and Kopech being greater than Sale, was the only option. No, the post I responded to said Sale was greater than Kopech + Moncada and the point I was making was that’s not the case for us. We had to trade Sale because we couldn’t win with him. If you want to argue there was a better package to be had, that’s a completely different argument. But in isolation & without the benefit of hindsight, I will certaintly take Moncada, Kopech, & Basabe over Sale given we’re at today.

Kanny postponed due to weather. The Dash are in a delay in the top of the 8th. If the game resumes, Sheets & Adolfo will lead off the inning. Birmingham about to start game 2 of their double-header. Collins at catcher, no Zavala in the lineup.

QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 03:15 PM) Sale > Yoan / Michael 6.5 years of Kopech + 6.5 years of Moncada + whatever Basabe becomes > 3 years of Sale with a Sox team mired in mediocrity

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 02:57 PM) Ian Clarkin is having a good game: 6 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 5 K, 0 BB Assuming he doesn’t go out for the 8th, this will be Clarkin’s final line: 7 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 6 K, 0 BB Excellent start to to season for him.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 02:13 PM) I think you heard wrong. He will have surgery at some point this year, he is strictly DH As far I as I know they have not determined yet that he’ll require surgery.

Adolfo with a 2B on top of the HR. More importantly, he’s not K’ing like crazy anymore and seems to be much more selective at the plate even if he’s not drawing a ton of walks yet. Definitely a lot to like here.

QUOTE (Footlongcomiskeydog @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 01:17 PM) LMAO. Moncada has a career 35% strike out rate. He will be out of baseball in a couple years if he can't lower that number. Albies has already put up 2.3 WAR in his career. Moncada is at 1.5. However, Albies is almost 2 years younger than Moncada!!!! No one said development is linear but Albies already looks at home in the big leagues wheras Moncada is a negative war player so far in 08. You might happily take Moncada over Albies but I'm pretty sure Hahn would get told to get lost if he proposed a straight up trade of the two. Lol, out of baseball? Moncada put up a 104 wRC+ last year despite a 32% K rate. He won’t be a superstar if he continues to strike out that frequently, but saying he’d be out of baseball is one of the most ludicrous statements I’ve seen in Soxtalk history. And that’s cool you’re comparing WARs of two young players over the course of their first full season, but I’m not sure what that tells us that we didn’t already know. Albies has a very advanced hit tool and much more developed defensive game. He should be out-producing Moncada right now. Long-term I’d wager the vast majority of GMs would still take Yoan over Albies. The upside is significantly higher with Moncada and that’s saying something given how good Albies could be. Unlike a lot of posters here, GMs aren’t going to completely change their position on a young player because of a slow start.

Albies has a 1.5% BB rate to go with a 16.4% K rate. His offense is being fueled by some flukey power numbers. I’ll happily take Moncada and his swing & miss issues over Albies any day of the week. Development is not linear and I would expect Albies’ game to translate quicker to the pros than Yoan’s. And I say that as an Albies fan.

http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?c...mp;ymd=20180415 Birmingham with a double header. First set of games start around 1pm CST.