Chicago White Sox

Assuming 37 year old James Shields will be decent next year takes a huge leap of faith. I’m not even sure he’ll be decent a month or two from now as his HR rate looks ripe for regression. Honestly, picking up his $16M option would be a firable offense IMO.

Nice hit for Moncada off the lefty!

I am really like what I’m seeing from Covey. If he can maintain this level of command, he’ll be an effective major league starting pitcher.

Yeah, Covey getting squeezed a little bit right there.

According to Mayo, the Tigers have narrowed their pick down to three guys: Mize, Bart, & Singer. I really hope the Tigers are doing something stupid and are shopping the pick to Bart & Singer and seeing if one will take an underslot deal. Passing on Mize for Singer would be a fail of epic proportions & I’d love to see it.

Why in the world would the Rockies want James Shields?

In all honesty, if it weren’t for the Royals, Rays, & Indians having multiple comp picks, we’d be best off doing a huge underslot deal with a high end prep talent (Kelenic, Wynn, Liberatore, etc) and use the savings to take advantage of the draft’s depth. Just too risky with those clubs in the mix, which hopefully means you take a high floor guy like Madrigal who if you dream on just a bit has some chance of becoming a star.

Yup, I really hope the front office doesn’t try to overplay its hand here. Get a Ti’Quan Forbes caliber prospect and end this regretful chapter of White Sox baeball. The sooner the better as his innings are valuable and would be better served to Stephens, Covey, etc.

Under no circumstance should we pick up a $16M option for Shields. That would be absolute insanity. While he hasn’t been terrible this year, he’s still not good and could easily be replaced with a less costly and/or better option.

I’ll happily take salary relief for Shields and call it a day.

Wow, that lineup is terrible. Rondon batting cleanup & DHing? Lol what? I guess we don’t have a lot of other options.

This is Hostetler’s full-time job. Hahn doesn’t have the time to read the hundreds upon hundreds of scouting reports on amateur talent it would take to run a successful draft. Again, the top pick may be a little different because we’re talking about a smaller subset of prospects to evaluate and the pick is vitally more important.

Hostelter makes the picks. Obviously the first overall pick will have far more influence from Hahn & KW and they could dictate a certain direction (Burdi) or even override a proposed selection, but generally speaking the scouting director runs the draft.

Always take the BPA early in the draft. If we need a starting pitching in 2020, we can either go out and sign one or use some of our prospect currency to acquire one.

The situation is somewhat similar, although I think Rodon was a far superior prospect than Singer ever was. And even without those issues, Mize would have passed Singer as the premier prospect in the draft.

Same draft, but I’m far more worried we pull a Fulmer with our Happ right there for the taking. I continue to have a bad feeling that we’ll have our choice of Madrigal & Singer, go with the pitcher, and the Reds immediately take Nick at #5 and together they live happily ever after. Speaking of the 2015 draft, I’m not sure there is better evidence to go position player when picking early: Dansby Swanson Alex Bregman Brendan Rodgers Dillon Tate Kyle Tucker Tyler Jay Andrew Benintendi Carson Fulmer Ian Happ I know it’s one draft, but every team that picked a position player is happy right now (maybe not Arizona lol) and those that picked pitchers are probably filled with great regret. I get the top guys in this draft might not be of the same caliber overall, but I still feel there is far more certainty with Madrigal & Bohm than a second tier pitcher like Singer. Pitching is just too risky to take that high unless it’s of the elite variety.

Just over 34 hours until the draft starts. Can’t fucking wait.

That’s exactly the type of offensive profile I’m envisioning and that’s a hell of a player when you factor in his defense.

Dam, you’re one of my favorite posters on this board and I respected your initial position on this topic, but now it just seems like you’re willing to give this guy free passes all around all in the name of value. I think it’s perfectly reasonable for people to not want to touch this guy with a 10 foot pole, just as I think an argument can be made for giving the guy a second chance. I’m fine with you wanting to select him, I just think it feels a bit cheap to presume his innocence as a reason why.

But when you have all the evidence to prove your innocence why are you even worried about jail, especially as a minor? And I’m not even suggesting that he’s without question guilty, I just think it’s odd that someone would say all the evidence suggests he’s innocent but he still took a plea. More than anything I’m just curious about what that evidence is to better educate myself on the case.

Calling someone a meathead because they don’t want to draft someone who at bare minimum pleaded guilty to molesting a six year old child seems a bit egregious.

Not when they have overwhelming evidence that suggests they are innocent.

Not to derail this thread any further, but what is all this evidence that suggests he is innocent and why did he ever accept a plea deal if so much favorable evidence existed?

Then why do you think most organizations will pass on him? Is everyone blowing this out of proportion? Right or wrong, all I know is I’m the father of three young children and I would be unable to cheer or support him. He’s obviously no threat to my children and may be a completely different person, but I’m unable to overlook his actions regardless of the reasons. And I know many others on this board feel the same way. I’m all for second chances in life, but this one area people typically can’t be rational about and I fully admit I’m guilty of that. But I’m less concerned about fan outrage and far more worried about the clubhouse impacts. There will be teammates who will not want this dude around and that’s where problems could arise IMO.

Yeah, seemed pretty dumb. Almost seems like Renteria is in on the tank.