Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 07:22 AM) [/b] Benintendi being recalled. You were right, still an absurd rush job IMO.

I've been sick to my stomach all afternoon over this. I understand the underlying logic in holding onto Sale & Quintana until the offseason, although I question which non-contenders will actually be part of this so-called derby. To me, there are only so many teams that can afford these guys and most of them were in the playoff hunt anyways. Having said that, major leaguers could be in play this fall and so could 2016 draft picks. Perhaps a few more teams will enter the fray, but I don't expect a ton more, even with a poor free agent market. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on Sale & Quintana for now. What really pisses me off are all the other guys they could have dealt. Yes, we don't know what was offered, but it's quite amazing to me that we only made one trade and it was for a local kid with ties to our GM's high school. Tilson is a legit prospect, but I can't help but think this is another case of our front office trying to get their "guy" who fills a specific need and missing out on a potentially greater return. And I find it incredibly hard to believe no one offered anything of value for Melky or Robertson. Relievers & OFs were going left and right for solid returns. The fact we couldn't make any deals with out guys strongly suggests our demands were unrealistic or we were simply late to the party. Either way, this deadline only increased my fears that Hahn & KW don't know how to sell. The worst part of this all is the complete lack of direction. We still don't know if this team is going to rebuild or retool or most likely do a half-ass job in between. The lack of moves has me greatly concerned there is still no long term plan. Obviously we'll know more this fall/winter, but I would have loved to seen some signs that a rebuilding was coming. Instead, we get to spend the next five months worrying whether or no the front office will do the right thing. I'm getting to the point where following this team has become unenjoyable due to the utter incompetence of our front office and ownership group. Again, I hope they prove me wrong and blow this mess up during the offseason, but with the lack of direction and accountability for years & years I have no reason to be optimistic at the moment.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 03:15 PM) Why even trade Zach Duke? This organization sucks. I'm done until the offseason. Because we were able to plug a major hole with superstar prospect Tilson!

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 03:10 PM) Levine says confirmed No moves for the Sox f*** our pathetic front office. What a bunch of assholes.

Matt Moore dealt, but Shields & Gonzalez remain at the moment.

Yankees dealt Nova too. Cashman straight up murdered our front office this deadline.

Has anyone confirmed yet that we made no deals? I know some deals are announced late. And what's this bonus time stuff flavum was talking about?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 02:58 PM) We don't know what they were offered guys. Get off the ledge. Teams are making deals and left and right and we're supposed to think the only halfway decent offer we got for any of our guys was a 4th OF for Duke? I think it's pretty easy to say they f***ed up on dealing their secondary pieces.

This is f***ing ridiculous. Absolutely unacceptable to not move any of Robertson, Shields, Gonzalez, Melky, & Frazier.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 02:00 PM) 1 hour. Robertson still here. It's like f***ing musical chairs and we're going to be the only one without chair when the music stops. This front office better not f*** this up. Even if Sale & Quintana aren't moved, there are other pieces to deal.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 07:56 AM) Think I'd rather have Profar over Gallo.. Not at all impressed with Gallo I know it's been said a hundred times, but Profar only has three years of control and is represented by Boras. He makes little sense for a rebuilding club. Gallo is obviously a risk because of the K's, but he's also got incredible upside (80 grade power) and has crushed every level of minor league pitching. It may not be a popular comparison around here, but he's somewhat similar to a young Adam Dunn offensively with the ability to play as a passable 3B. If I'm also getting Mazara & Brinson, I'm more than happy to roll the dice on Gallo.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 07:42 AM) Bruce has more value: better hitter, younger, cheaper. Still we should be trying to move him and not a word. There isn't much of a difference in quality of hitting, just different styles. And defensively, Melky has actually been the better player by advanced metrics. Yes, Bruce is a couple years younger, but I'm not sure why that matters when both are only under control for one more season and Jay has been the one unable to stay healthy in recent years. The difference is salary is $2M, which is pretty meaningless. Unless you are desperate for power, I would personally take Melky over Bruce, especially if I were an AL team.

A deal built around Mazara, Gallo, Brinson, Ortiz, & Tate could work. Let them keep Profar. Maybe include Melky to help offset the loss of Mazara and to get a couple more pieces back. That's not a bad deal at all. Not as good as a Moncada/Benintendi lead package, but I'm not sure how many other clubs could actually top it.

Sounds like a Bruce deal may be close to happening. Will be interesting to see what the return is and if we would have been satisfied with moving Melky for it.

450 minutes to go. Feeling a little more optimistic this morning.

Yeah, interesting all the local guys are finally leaking some stuff.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 07:10 PM) Not Coats, I said play Tilson the rest of this season. I think Melky's value is as high as it ever will. See if some team could use a .300 hitter( both a veteran and a lefty) for the stretch run. Tilson should get everyday at-bats in CF regardless of what we do with Melky. Coats is simply the next guy in-line for corner outfield playing time if a spot should open up in the very near future.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 06:54 PM) No thanks. Coats is not a major leaguer. Probably not, but he's exactly the type of prospect you give 200 at-bats to in a lost season.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 06:11 PM) Who said the Sox are going into a rebuild right now? If they are, they need to move either Sale or Q between now and March. Guys like Melky and Robertson aren't going to get you enough talent to do it properly. I think it's a lot more likely that the Sox try to retool a little over the next six months and save the major trades for next July. That would be so incredibly risky IMO. First off, your odds of building winner for the 2017 are incredibly low. Second, you're passing on potential value that guys like Melky & Gonzalez could get you now. Finally, you're gambling that your prized assets don't get hurt between now and next July. Why take that risk? This organization needs to be smart for once and blow things up between now and the offseason.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 06:08 PM) You shouldn't be worrying about that going into the beginning of a rebuild. They need to assemble as much young talent as possible and figure out how to piece it together later. Yup, absolutely no reason not to deal Melky and give Coats a two month trial in LF.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:37 PM) 3 outs away from such a scenario. And Street just pulled a Robertson.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:56 PM) Reasonable looking prospect too. If Gonzalez and Shields are still here Tuesday we riot. I agree, short of a crazy Sale or Quintana trade. And even then, Shields should at least be gone.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:54 PM) Quintana, Sale deals still in play for White Sox https://t.co/VPtpZKe3tI via @mlb https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/759884479313960960 I'll take this as a positive.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:03 PM) If the Red Sox lose in Anaheim, they will be tied with the Tigers for the second wildcard. Only ahead by a percentage point. 3 outs away from such a scenario.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:24 PM) Melky is better than Jay Bruce. Can't believe teams that want Bruce aren't calling about Melky who is a better pure hitter and is a switch hitter. Doesn't have his power but makes up for it with contract, average and OBP. Color me shocked Yeah, I'd be shocked if teams with OF needs weren't calling us about Melky. He'd actually be a perfect fit for Texas where he could DH and play a little OF. The question is whether or not Melky is even available. If you're going for it in 2017, you pretty much have to keep him. Like I said previously, if he's not dealt, it's probably an indication of our plans for next year.