Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 07:45 PM) Phil RogersVerified account‏@philgrogers 17s17 seconds ago More If the #Nationals are willing to trade catcher Pedro Severino, the #Whitesox would probably move David Robertson w/some salary relief. I just don't get this. Severino may be a phenomenal defensive catcher, but I don't see how the bat plays in the majors, even in a backup capacity. Seems like the type of guy we'd be looking to replace by the time we actually got good.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 04:24 PM) Would you put up an offer in the $17.5 to 18 million dollar range to Todd Frazier? If he has a solid bounce back, no doubt I would. With lesser penalties for signing free agents with QOs, I really don't think there would be much risk that he'd accept.

I really don't get the Severino love around here.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 01:12 PM) The same Adolfo signed the same year the Cubs signed BOTH Gleyber Torres AND Eloy Jimenez? That Adolfo? I pointed this out a month or so ago, but yeah it's not a good look for us. Regardless, it's way too early to write off a prospect with the physical tools Adolfo has. I'm not overly optimistic, but you never know what happens if we can stay healthy and maintain some consistent development time.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 10:57 AM) We are just now starting to get to the point where we can grade these players at a minimum standard. The first group is starting to get into High A ball. The largest chunk of them is pretty much in rookie ball or the DSL itself. This is true, but to raBBit's point the early returns haven't been promising. Out of the first group, Martinez is probably the biggest success and he barely cracked futuresox's top 30. I'm higher than most on Cruz, but he doesn't deserve a top 30 spot at this point in time. Rodriguez's 2016 season was a huge failure. Same goes for Adolfo, although it's way too early to jump to any conclusions on him just yet. Honestly, outside of Nunez's breakout season, Solorzano's solid performance (despite underwhelming stuff), and Tatis's rise in prospect status (not with us mind you), there were simply not a lot of positives on the Latin American side of things.

I have no idea why I keep watching Walking Dead. To me, this garbage people group is a new low for the show.

From Scott Merkin: Who's next on the CF depth chart? Liriano?

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Feb 18, 2017 -> 10:05 AM) Ah, but be careful. The question was would ownership pay for "premier" free agents the next time the Sox are a few pieces away. That exact opportunity presented itself about as good as it could last offseason when Yoenis Cespedes was available, and the team failed to make it happen. You expect a different outcome the next time around with the same ownership and management in place? I hope you are right, but color me skeptical right up until that time when I see it happen. Completely different situations. In your scenario the Sox were approaching some theoretical payroll threshold, whereas the Sox should have minimal payroll commitments entering the epic 2018/2019 free agent period. What exactly do you think Reinsdorf will do? Not allow Hahn to sign free agents above a certain AAV or for a certain amount of years? I just don't see it unless Hahn is looking to sign an elite pitcher to a crazy long-term contract. Otherwise, I expect Hahn to a fair amount of autonomy on how he spends his budget.

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Feb 18, 2017 -> 09:04 AM) I agree with your assessment of the 2018 White Sox. You could have the worse offensive team in MLB. Does anybody really think that JR is going to spend big money on premier free agents? He hasn't done that since he signed Albert Belle. I think he will, but it won't be until the following year most likely. Hahn made it clear at SoxFest that the money will be there when the Sox are a few pieces away.

Honestly, 2018 could be worse than 2017. Our offense will be losing at least two key contributors in Frazier & Melky and maybe even Abreu. The only prospect worth a damn replacing them at the moment is Moncada. That could be a really ugly dropoff. The pitching side should be better with Giolito, Lopez, Fulmer, & Burdi all up, but they'll all have their growing pains and will have to offset any potential contributions from Quintana, Robertson, and possibly Jones this year. That's not a guarantee by any means. We're going to need add a few more near major league prospects and see some fast development for 2018 to be an improvement. This is all assuming they don't plug some holes with legit options in free agency.

Thanks for posting! This list shows me our Latin American operations still need a ton of work. Tatis would have cracked the top 20, but it's a bit scary that no one else did. Marco Paddy's early returns have been pretty poor. Really need one of Adolfo or Nunez to break out next year.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 09:42 PM) You may see some make it out of ST. Hopefully the coaching staff makes good decisions but if Moncada has a solid spring he could go north. Moncada has no chance of going north out of camp and Rick Hahn has made this perfectly clear. They will not be giving up a year of control on any of their key young players that aren't already on the major league roster (i.e. Rodon & Anderson).

Not overly surprising, but four Sox prospects ranked in the top 150 on at least one writer's list, but didn't crack the overall top 100 list. They are Basabe, Burdi, Fulmer, & Hansen.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 09:14 PM) Seems very odd that the players we think the Sox have targeted have moved up on a lot of these lists ( Meadows, Tucker, Marte, Keller )while the guys they acquired are moving down (Moncada, Giolito). Well it's been somewhat of a mixed bag. Kopech & Lopez have both moved up quite a bit over the past 12 months.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 08:27 PM) Especially with as cheap some some of the free agents are out there. Exactly, the fact we didn't add a legit DH on the cheap should be proof to all.

QUOTE (pablo @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 08:16 PM) This is a complete side note but have found it funny ever since the winter meetings. What is up with RH always saying "if we had our druthers..."? It's got to be the fourth or fifth time I have heard him use it since the Eaton deal. Can he come up with something new? It's getting to the point where it's a tad bit annoying for me. Lol...he has definitely been using "druthers" quite a bit. Am I wrong or is that a term KW used quite frequently in the past?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 07:25 PM) Wasn't he a #1 overall candidate at one point? If that's the case, I think it's pretty clear a return to form means the sky is the limit (and obviously for his prospect status). Yeah, there was definitely talk about it leading into his junior season. Having said that, it's rare to see someone jump from being outside of most top 100 lists to suddenly being a top 30 overall prospect. It can happen, but you really need a situation like Hansen's, where people are still overvaluing his poor college performance (and rightfully so for the most part). If he can dominate A ball and maybe reach AA by the end of the season, I fully expect him to be amongst the highest rated RHP prospects in the minors next year. To your point, the sky is really the limit and these lists will quickly reflect that if he can keep it up.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 07:49 PM) I actually thought it was the first move. I don't think they are this petty. What would be the point of trading those two and then just holding serve? Wouldn't we have a Napoli signing? A Wieters signing? Exactly, they would have replaced these guys with legit replacements and not Derek Holland & Avi Garcia.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 07:43 PM) He said you would know the direction after the first couple of moves. There actually were a couple of moves before the trades, and he clearly has said time and time again they are closer to the beginning than the end of the rebuild, would like to make 4 more of these trades, and has said other teams ownership has nixed 2 deals. The LaRoche connection conspiracy is crazy. It just worked out that the first 2 were Sale and Eaton, could have been Frazier and Q. It's beyond crazy. And I think people will realize this very quickly, as I fully expect the Sox to very active on the trade market all season and not just wait until the deadline. I'd be absolutely shocked if Quintana, Frazier, Melky, & Robertson were on this team come August 1st and wouldn't be surprised if a move or two were made between now and May. Moves are coming, we all just need to patient despite how painful that may be.

Hansen could realistically be a top 30 prospect by the end of next season. I can respect why people are skeptical right now, but a strong year in full season ball will make a lot of believers.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 06:22 PM) I'd imagine Q, Robertson, Frazier and Jones. I'd say Melky over Jones. Honestly, I don't they are very motivated to move Jones right now, they probably figure he can greatly improve his value with some closing experience.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 05:35 PM) My guess is Washington For Robertson due to money and Q /Cutch/NY due to who the f*** knows. Yeah, that seems to make sense to me. I could have seen the PIT/NYY three way also falling apart due to money.

Wow, two deals fell through at the ownership approval stage...wonder what deals those were?

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Feb 12, 2017 -> 09:45 PM) LOL. GMs never posture! Kind of running out of time here...

Sounds like an Astros trade is unlikely based on this tweet from MLB Network Radio: