Chicago White Sox

f*** you Volquez. Only a run behind, don't stop now boys!

We need to get Abreu in right here.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 29, 2016 -> 01:41 PM) Abreu now 2/16 on the season against KC. And of course the Orioles are blowing their 4-0 lead against CLE as well. 4-3. Great! Caulfield, can you please stop with all the negative little tid-bits? How about something positive for a change? I'd like a reason for optimism.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 29, 2016 -> 01:38 PM) Now the question is whether the White Sox offense can get anything at all going against Volquez?? Because those were two great plays in one inning...sandwiching a pretty poor one by Abreu. Sale as a starter against KC..., .277 BAA, against the rest of the AL as a starter (even MN), only .218. Have won the season series every year from 2011-2015. Saladino, btw, with a great relay throw to get the runner at 1st. He has to be on that field instead of Rollins just for the sake of his defensive superiority. How was the Abreu play a poor one?

Horrific f***ing start. Sale giving up two runs in the 1st must feel like a gut punch to the offense.

Just turned the game, which version of Sale do we have today?

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 29, 2016 -> 10:20 AM) Does anyone expect the White Sox to pick the right manager when Ventura is eventually gone after this year? Look at the clusterf*** that is the Chicago Bulls and Fred Hoiberg. I think our best hope is Ventura gets fired mid-season and the team magically rebounds under Renteria. Otherwise, I feel we will get another cheap, inexperienced hire who in all likelihood has a connection to the organization.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ May 29, 2016 -> 09:57 AM) The #RallyFinger shall lead the Sox to victory today! ________________$$$$ ______________$$____$$ ______________$$____$$ ______________$$____$$ ______________$$____$$ ______________$$____$$ __________$$$$$$____$$$$$$ ________$$____$$____$$____$$$$ ________$$____$$____$$____$$__$$ $$$$$$__$$____$$____$$____$$____$$ $$____$$$$________________$$____$$ $$______$$______________________$$ __$$____$$______________________$$ ___$$$__$$______________________$$ ____$$__________________________$$ _____$$$________________________$$ ______$$______________________$$$ _______$$$____________________$$ ________$$____________________$$ _________$$$________________$$$ __________$$________________$$ __________$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ The first rally finger fixed the offense, hopefully this one does wonders for the bullpen!

QUOTE (GreenSox @ May 29, 2016 -> 08:50 AM) You're right...but I wonder if they ever shook off the Texas meltdown. That's when this all began. Yesterday's was monumental...happens once a decade. The Texas-type meltdown happens fairly regularly. For sure, the team hasn't been the same since game 2 in Texas. I remember Ozzie's FIRST game as manager....opening game in 2004. KC scored 6 in the bottom of the 9th to beat us. Ozzie publicly put it all on his back....blamed himself for putting Marte (who got no one out) in a bad position. Sox won game 2. I thought that Ozzie's plus skill early on WAS the clubhouse. But not in the happy summer camp sense. I think you're right about the Texas game. The team has really been pressing ever since. And quite frankly, it's a big reason why I think Robin has to go. I think Robin is a great person and he'll always be one of my favorite players, but his leadership style doesn't appear to be effective right now. Time for a change and no doubt Rick Renteria deserves first crack.

Speaking of this rumor, who gets ousted from the rotation if this happens, Gonzales or Latos? I'm leaning towards Latos being the odd man out. Gonzalez also has another year of control, which buys us some time on Fulmer, Adams, etc.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ May 29, 2016 -> 08:37 AM) As for the "good in the clubhouse" stuff, we'll find out today. A team shakes off a loss like that if they have a good clubhouse leader. Sale is pitching today....shouldn't be any problem. Being good in the clubhouse does not mean running a summer holiday camp where everyone is happy and lazy because there is no accountability. While I agree with your underlying point, I'm not sure any team can just shake off a loss like yesterday's. The team needs to string together a few wins to truly to get rid of the bad taste yesterday's loss has certainly left in everyone's mouths. A win today would obviously help though and you can't ask for more than Sale on the mound.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 29, 2016 -> 08:29 AM) Because Richard is always bumbling in Silicon Valley it has an adverse effect on the Sox chances today. Richard=Chris Sale when flustered (or vice-versa). The only way to counteract this is with a Gavin Belson GIF/gfycat. Or naming Monica manager of the White Sox. Or the patented Pied Piper algorithm managing our bullpen from here on out. Caulfield, I enjoy your posts, but seriously WTF.

The reality here is the Sox need another starter and can't really afford to use their prospects to get one. I'm not sure that Shields is the right guy, but I like the underlying idea. The Padres would definitely have to eat some money (maybe $10M) for this to work. And no doubt it would be risky, but given where the team is at, I'm not against rolling the dice and taking a shot at a playoff run. If you miss the playoffs, I think you really have to consider blowing this thing up. We can't keep trying to patch-work the holes around our stars, especially with the next two free agent classes being garbage.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 29, 2016 -> 08:07 AM) The odds of losing that game with a six run lead into the 9th inning was 1 in 562...in other words, we could have that same exact scenario with Sox closers in a game and it would happen about once every 15 years or so, roughly. That's without even taking considering the first out being recorded. The win expectancy was 99.9% after we got that first out.

Get us a win today KyYIE!

QUOTE (Deadpool @ May 29, 2016 -> 07:29 AM) He handled it fine, honestly. There was nothing questionable about the 9th, it just happened and Hawk could only watch. Nothing questionable about the 9th? How about letting Robertson give up five runs and putting the tying run on 2nd before pulling him? How about after finally pulling him, then putting in a rookie into an extremely high leverage situation? How about walking the bases loaded (a day after failing to do so with their best hitter) with a pitcher on the mound having significant control problems? You can't only blame the players when the win expectancy after that first out was 99.9%.

I really don't think you get Frazier without Thompson. And I'd like to see Trayce put up these numbers over a full season before I start feeling regrets.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 28, 2016 -> 09:23 PM) Oh I dunno. Sin city is very hard to gauge . To me he seems totally serious but who knows, he could be a troll. Sin City Sox is the most blatant troll on this site.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ May 28, 2016 -> 08:54 PM) Manager doesn't matter. You can get to and maybe win a World Series with Ned Yost or Terry Collins, or Ozzie f***ing Guillen. I'm sorry, but you're flat out wrong. Managers do matter, even if their impact is hard to quantify. And just because some teams can be successful DESPITE their manager, it does not mean the manager isn't costing them games. Robin is killing us right now and his in-game decision-making is only part of the problem. A good manager knows how to keep his team loose and prevent them from going through extended slumps. Joe Maddon is a great example of that. On the flip side, our entire team has been pressing for weeks and Robin hasn't been able to do anything to stop it. Whether it's a lack of leadership or simply an ineffective form, whatever he is attempting to do to get these guys out of their funk isn't working. And quite frankly, it more than time for a change.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ May 28, 2016 -> 08:47 PM) How does the opt-out clause factor into negotiating leverage? Are the Sox able to offer less since they can say "Well we might only have him for 20 starts." There's no chance Shields opts out. And if he does, that means pitched so well that we should be able to get a comp pick from his exit.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 28, 2016 -> 08:37 PM) Good stats for Shield with more strikeouts than innings pitched and good control. I think he still has something to offer. But, that salary!!! Not sure what stats you're looking at, but he's K'ing less than 8 per nine innings.

QUOTE (harkness @ May 28, 2016 -> 04:41 PM) At this very moment we are... is the Cleveland game over? They're up 7-0 so unless Robin Ventura is their manager the game is over.

f*** you Robin, you might be the worst manager in baseball history.

This is the most pathetic loss I have ever witnessed as a Sox fan.

Why do you intentially load the bases with a guy with no control?