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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 08:53 PM) Don't really care what is to be done with Sanchez. Micah needs to improve defensively. This team is brutal defensively, and Micah was the worst culprit. Can't reward that as an organization or well find ourselves in the same position year after year after....like we are now. But we'll reward the worst hitter in baseball with well over 100 plate appearances despite having an epically bad offense? Do you think it's possible that some of Micah's bad defensive plays were the result of him being a rookie and pressing a little bit? Why are we willing to tolerate growing pains with the bat, but not on the defensive side of the game?
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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 08:50 PM) He can stay there unless he's gotten significantly better defensively You realize how much worse Sanchez has been overall than Michah right?
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QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 08:32 PM) I'm #TeamSanchez and I agree. When I say I'm #TeamSanchez, I'm saying I think he can be 75-80 wRC+ with good defense, not any kind of star. But that really goes back to the whole "trade Sale" stuff. I truly believe that when all the chips fall, Sanchez is an 80, Melky is a 100, Eaton is a 110, and Abreu is a 135, and if all that can happen, the team can win a ton more games. I'm the offical Anti-Avi and I still think he can give us 100. It certainly might be too big a hole to dig out of this year, but I don't think you actually have to fill 7 holes on the diamond like it LOOKS right now. Great post. Only thing I disagree on is Sanchez being the answer rather than Micah. Otherwise, I agree things will look much better by the end of the season than they do now.
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QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 02:27 AM) Whenever I brought up the possibility of the Sox trading Q, it seemed like people wanted burn me to the stake, but I digress. Anyway, I was thinking about the Nats as a trade partner for Q at least during the offseason. Both Jordan Zimmermann and Doug Fister are free agents after the season. I think they both sign elsewhere, so that leaves them with two holes in their rotation. They are going to be looking for quality arms as they see themselves as contenders. The only starters that they have under contract are Scherzer, China Doll and Gio Gonzalez. So I ask this, would you trade Q to the Nationals in exchange for Lucas Giolito and change (Your pick of lower level prospects, comp picks, international bonus slots and/or cash)? I know I would. Giolito gives you a monster arm and the more comp picks you have the more talent you can add to the system through the draft. If you trade Quintana is has to be for offense, whether that be a star or multiple prospects.
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Well, it's that time of year again....2015 edition
Chicago White Sox replied to ChiliIrishHammock24's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 11:23 PM) I'd love Schwarber. Not sure if I'd even want Baez. I hate that this thread even pops up annually now. I'll say what I say every year, I can't root for losses but when they happen, that's ok, sad as that is. The thing is though, it's not even July yet. This is too early! I'm not rooting for losses this early. The season may be over, but I'd much rather see guys rebound and/or develop than get the top pick in the draft. -
Well, it's that time of year again....2015 edition
Chicago White Sox replied to ChiliIrishHammock24's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 11:08 PM) I don't think the Cubs would give up that much That's fine, just not sure who they're going to get that's as good as Quintana with such a favorable contract. We're talking 5 years of team control for just over $43M. A similar pitcher on the free agent market will make more than that in two years. -
International Signings: Rodriguez (20): 2/5, 1 2B, 0 K Velasquez (20): 4/4, 1 2B, 0 K Johan Cruz (19): 1/4, 0 K Adolfo (17): 2/3, 1 K, 1 BB Alfaro (19): 0-3, 1 K Mercedes (18): 0/1, 1 K, 2 BB Solorzano (18): 5 IP, 2 ER, 2 H, 4 K, 0 BB
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Well, it's that time of year again....2015 edition
Chicago White Sox replied to ChiliIrishHammock24's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 11:01 PM) As for next year, sure seems like there is one rotation spot open and 2b/ss/3b/c starting spots. Hahn has his work cut out for him. Kind of funny how the Cubs strength is the Sox weakness, and the Cubs would love to have the young arms of the Sox I know it won't happen, but I still think Quintana to the Cubs for Schwarber & Baez makes too much sense for both teams. -
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 08:58 PM) Then he will still be one at the All Star Break and maybe he'll have 8 straight great starts instead of 3. He'll still get a real solid look in the big leagues. Why are you ignoring his 2013 season when he dominated AAA? This year you focus on a couple bad starts in May, when he was very good in April and has been elite so far in June. The kid leads the International Leauge in strikeouts by a wide margin with the rest of his periphials more than solid. And yes he was injured last year, the Sox did eventually disclose some sort of injury. His stuff is now back and the results are there. He was ready for the bigs in 2013 and there is no reason hold 2014 against him when the velocity and command have returned. You're clinging to some insider info that only tells a small fraction of the story
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 08:36 PM) I keep saying for EJ...they've said they want to give him time at AAA to get his confidence back and I totally agree with that after the implosion last year. You keep saying this, but also keep ignoring the suddenly drop-off in velocity. I'm sure his mental makeup played a role, but stuff was the primary issue.
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Even in a game when our team can scrape together double digit hits, bad base-running, horrendous defense, & John Danks completely f*** it up for us.
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Can the mods please ban Greg for his ridiculous "Danks is a good pitcher" comments last week?
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QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 08:23 PM) Not anymore.. I don't understand how Hahn and Williams can watch this s*** every day and not make any sort of move. And how Robin hasn't benched Alexei yet 100% agreed, I fully acknowledge it's probably too late to change the outcome of the season, but the fact Hahn is going to grave with the same clowns day in day out is beyond frustrating.
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At least our defensive defencies are now physically hurting the opposing team!
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QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 08:18 PM) How many more things can we do wrong The game is technically tied, so a lot more things. Also, "Our defense has absolutely sucked" - Hawk. This team might actually kill Hawk.
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f*** this team so f***ing much!?!
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And this is the perfect example of why throwing away outs with Danks pitching is a TERRIBLE idea.
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Serious question, but what does Sanchez have to do to get demoted? He had a -0.7 WAR coming into tonight and has shown no signs of improving with the bat. It honestly seems like Hahn doesn't want to admit they made mistake swapping Micah for Carlos.
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QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 08:09 PM) 7 straight have reached And two total runs! Only our White Sox can pull that off!
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Lol, that has to be the weakest contact I've seen on a non-bunt swing.
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Sanchez will get a hit here, he's more than due.
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What the f*** was that!
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QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 07:52 PM) He gets paid either way. That is all Danks cares about anyway. No offense, but this a f***ing stupid comment. Danks is clearly broken, but it's not due to a lack of effort.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 07:47 PM) As I said yesterday...give him time down there. Some of the things we have heard suggest that a big part of his struggles last year were mental-driven, so giving him time to fully have his confidence together is not a bad thing. It's not like EJ is going to "Save this season". It's not about saving the season, it's about having an extended look at him against major league hitters. We need to know what we have in him and the larger the sample the more confident we'll feel. We're clearly going to have to move some pitching this offseason to fix our offense, whether it's a major league piece or prospects, and I know I'd feel a lot better about moving pitching if I felt Johnson could hold the #4 spot quite effectively.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 07:46 PM) Just to say again...the MLBPA would never allow this. Honestly, just throw his ass in the bullpen. See if he gains a couple MPH on his fastball if used in short stints. If not, then you simply DFA him and eat the money. At this point, we have to accept the fact other teams will not view him as a major league starter. No reason to keep trotting him out there every 5 days when a better internal option is available IMO.
