Everything posted by Chicago White Sox
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My/Your Off Season Plan
QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 10:38 AM) I think Quintana + can get Arenado. Why would the Rockies want Quintana? Trading Arenado is a "blow it up" move for them.
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My/Your Off Season Plan
QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 09:16 PM) It's neither of these things. The QO pick was a possibility after the trade happened but ultimately, it was decided that the QO pick would be more valuable than trading Samarzija in July. The deal was always a season of Shark plus a QO pick (short of injury). The upside was potentially locking him up to a long-term deal (at a below market rate) or trading him at the deadline for prospects, but getting a QO pick was always part of the floor. And right now, it's the most important of the deal for us, which is why saying we got "fleeced" and not acknowledging that part of the deal is very misleading.
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My/Your Off Season Plan
QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 06:27 PM) Not to be a smart ass but seriously, look up the numbers yourself. In short, Phegley posted better numbers than Flowers. Bassitt posted better numbers than Samardzija. Ravelo is 23, healthy and going into his first full season at AAA and he has high AVE/OBP potential. Considering the Sox have a lack of hitting in the farm, I wouldn't mind a young player with that potential, even if that player doesn't deveop power. Semien, Meh, I can live without Semien but imo and I said it at the time of the trade, Bassitt and Ravelo were the players I didn't like parting with. Then there's the fact that all four of the players the Sox sent to Oakland are under control for years to come and the Sox are left with Ynoa and the memory of one s***ty ass 2015 season from Samardzija. The Sox got fleeced so bad, Oakland should be brought up on charges and the Sox FO sent for psychiatric evaluation for being so stupid. It was like Steven Hawking making a trade with Forrest Gump. You missed the most important part of the deal for us which is the 1st round pick.
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Byung-ho Park bidding rights won by Twins, $12.85 m
QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 08:41 AM) I don't see how it can be Minnesota when they have Mauer/Sano/Plouffe at 1B/DH/3B Plouffe can be traded for value with Sano moving to 3B. Makes a lot of sense if they believe in Park's bat.
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Byung-ho Park bidding rights won by Twins, $12.85 m
Down to Sox, Twins, & Brewers. Given reports on his defense, I'll say us or Brewers.
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Byung-ho Park bidding rights won by Twins, $12.85 m
Daniel Kim is a legit baseball commentator in Korea, so if that's his real Twitter account, maybe there's some legs here (if you ignore the "Blue Socks" part.
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Byung-ho Park bidding rights won by Twins, $12.85 m
If the Pirates are actually out, then the Astros or Sox are the favorites IMO.
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Byung-ho Park bidding rights won by Twins, $12.85 m
Busted Onley quote on twitter:
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Byung-ho Park bidding rights won by Twins, $12.85 m
QUOTE (beautox @ Nov 8, 2015 -> 11:00 PM) Looking at the remaining teams mlb trade rumors have listed i find it hard to believe its not between the Sox or Twins. Phillies - In a complete rebuild and Park is 29, it doesn't match up with their efforts at all, and no DH. Brewers - Similar situation to the phillies and have Lind, again no DH. Reds - Votto and should be looking to rebuild and trade off assets soon. Pirates - Makes sense on some levels and more inclined due to the success of Jung-Ho but they have a great looking switch hitting prospect at AAA named Josh Bell who could start the year at first for them. Cubs - Rizzo. White Sox - Makes a lot of sense, could rotate with Abreu at DH, remove LaRoche from the equation entirely keep the draft pick from the QO and still afford the club alot of roster and payroll flexibility going forward, peak matches up with the rest of the core. Twins - Mauer isn't going anywhere, they have no reason to move Plouffe even with the emergence of Sano, and Sano can DH and rotate around the diamond, in addition to Sano still needing work on his defense. I can see them bidding if they plan on moving Plouffe and putting Sano at 3B but that doesn't seem very twins like to make a move just for the sake of making a move. Astros - at first base alone they have a glut of talent that they need to give playing time to sort out(Carter & J. Singleton) in addition to a great looking prospect in AJ Reed and solid DH options in whoever they decide not to go with at 1B and Evan Gattis. In addition to that Jed Lowrie could move across the diamond or strictly to DH with Moran coming on strong. Its not out of the question that by June both Reed and Moran are the Astros every day corner infielders. Nice summary. The one thing that makes me think the Sox are a potential fit is our complete lack of power hitters in the upper minors. We basically have a huge question mark in Hawkins and pretty much nothing else of significance. Therefore, we'll need to add some power from outside the organization. If Park can be a legit threat at DH, that gives us a bit more flexibility to go defense-oriented at other spots.
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Byung-ho Park bidding rights won by Twins, $12.85 m
QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 8, 2015 -> 10:39 PM) With Josh Bell almost ready in Pittsburgh, I'll guess that it's Colorado for Park. Good point on Bell, signing Park would force Pittsburgh to move Josh or one of their young OFs. Seems like an unnecessary risk to take for a team with limited financial resources.
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White Sox hire Rick Renteria and Greg Sparks
QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Nov 8, 2015 -> 10:45 PM) I don't think he would have have been fired if it wasn't for Maddon becoming available. Right? That's correct.
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White Sox hire Rick Renteria and Greg Sparks
QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 8, 2015 -> 10:40 PM) Bleh. Wasn't this guy the Cubs manager a year or two ago? He's better than Mark Parent by default, but it don't see how he's a huge improvement. What exactly are you expecting for a bench coach hire? Not sure how the Sox could do much better, especially considering Robin's lame duck status.
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White Sox hire Rick Renteria and Greg Sparks
Renteria would be a very strong hire if this indeed happens. Thank you Nationals for f***ing up the Bud Black hire.
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Byung-ho Park bidding rights won by Twins, $12.85 m
QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Nov 8, 2015 -> 10:23 PM) If Pirates get him I will take Alvarez off their hands. Horrible defender, will make $8M+, and is a free agent after next season. Don't see much upside, short-term or long-term.
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Byung-ho Park bidding rights won by Twins, $12.85 m
QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 8, 2015 -> 09:57 PM) If the Pirates didnt win then it gets interesting Did you read that somewhere?
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Byung-ho Park bidding rights won by Twins, $12.85 m
Only unconfirmed teams are the Phillies, Brewers, Reds, Pirates, Cubs, White Sox, Twins and Astros. Pirates have to be the favorites IMO, but the Astros, Twins, Brewers, & Sox remain possibilities.
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Byung-ho Park bidding rights won by Twins, $12.85 m
Unconfirmed Teams (9): Phillies, Brewers, Reds, Pirates, Cubs, White Sox, Twins, Rays, and Astros. Can safely rule out the Reds & Cubs. I'd also assume the Phillies are out due to Howard. That leaves the Brewers (if they move Lind), Pirates, White Sox (if we move LaRoche), Twins, Rays, & Astros.
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White Sox make qualifying offer to Jeff Samardzija.
I'd be incredibly surprised if Shark signed with the Cubs. Seems like he left on bad terms and at this point you'd think he'd like to get a fresh start outside of Chicago. Having said that, money talks and Theo may see him as an under-valued asset on the free agent market.
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Byung-ho Park bidding rights won by Twins, $12.85 m
Per mlbtraderumors: That's 13 clubs that are still posibilities. How many of these teams actually need a 1B?
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Sale switching Sox?
QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 8, 2015 -> 07:29 PM) No it's not. The names would be Bogaerts and Betts or they'd get hung up on. 100% agree. You only trade Sale if it's for a franchise-altering package. And if Blake Swihart is the best piece you're getting, then it's clearly not that kind of package.
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Byung-ho Park bidding rights won by Twins, $12.85 m
QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 8, 2015 -> 04:22 PM) Personally, I think they are just a bit high. I'm going to go with 4/30 ($7.5 mill annually). Again, that's just my opinion. QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 8, 2015 -> 04:23 PM) Kang got 2.5 for 4. I don't know why you'd offer him a lot more than that. If he asks for 40 million, tell him he can go back to Korea, lol. I agree 5/$40M seems way too high, but we also saw how the Cuban market changed after the Abreu signing. And I know it's different because of the posting system, but teams aren't going to completely disrespect these players in negotiations if they feel the Korean pipeline is important long-term. This guy should get considerably more than Kang. I'll think he gets $6M per year on top of the posting fee.
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Byung-ho Park bidding rights won by Twins, $12.85 m
QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 8, 2015 -> 04:12 PM) I imagine hell make like 3 million. Not really big bucks. Obviously the posting fee adds a decent amount but it's still not really gonna be big bucks. A couple baseball insiders have estimated his potential contract around 5/$40M on top of the $12M bid. Maybe they're a bit high (my guess is he'll get less), but we're looking at a lot more than $3M per year all-in.
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Byung-ho Park bidding rights won by Twins, $12.85 m
QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 8, 2015 -> 03:47 PM) Astros Is this your guess or did you read this somewhere?
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Byung-ho Park bidding rights won by Twins, $12.85 m
QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Nov 8, 2015 -> 01:13 PM) Now I would have bet the Dodgers would be in play since they have a large Korean population. The Dodgers have a 1B under contract for $64M over the next three years, why would they add another one?
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Byung-ho Park bidding rights won by Twins, $12.85 m
Any chance the Sox might be involved? There's been absolutely no noise on this, but if we're looking for ways to improve the offense without giving up a draft pick, this may be one of the best potential ways. Would obviously create a logjam at 1B/DH next year, but that would be a one year problem and we could probably move LaRoche if we ate $5M or so. I know it's very unlikely, but I'm desperate for offensive upgrades that are bigger than David Freese.