Chicago White Sox

I’m speculating here, but I really think this comes down to Jerry realizing he doesn’t have a lot of time left and doesn’t want to lose out on a super rich potential buyer with Chicago ties. Ishbia bought a single mid digit amount of shares back in 2021 and it sounds like he had been pushing to outright buy the team for some time. I think he eventually got tired of waiting and decided to take advantage of the Twins opportunity because Jerry wasn’t budging. Regardless, we do know that the threat of Ishbia buying the Twins led to Jerry proposing something to Ishbia and created this first initial domino to make him the biggest shareholder of the Sox. A transfer of control will be happening at some point before Jerry dies based on my conversation yesterday and I don’t think it will be multiple years from now. I fully expect some sort of deal to take place similar to what happened with the Orioles. Just not sure if that’s later this year, next season, etc.

Lost in the Smith & Taylor hype was Nastrini. He threw 27 sliders yesterday out of 51 pitches total and generated 15 swings and 12 whiffs on it (80%). I didn’t catch any of the game, but that’s an insane whiff rate on paper. Did anyone see him pitch yesterday? If so, how did the slider and the rest of his stuff look? Wondering if he’s made some tweaks with the pitch.

Just talked to a dude who is friends with Justin Ishbia. Was told that Ishbia was negotiating with Jerry for the past year to do a deal and that “it’s happening” now after Jerry reached out to him with some sort of proposal. Sounds like it will happening in the not too distant future. Nothing we don’t know other than than the timing.

I think Berroa is more valuable with an extra option than an extra year of service time. I’d put him on the major league DL.

100% exactly what I would do.

I kind of got Amaya’s spot earmarked for Meidroth. I don’t think both make the 26 man roster and as soon as Chase is ready they will FDA Amaya.

Oh TJS in of itself is not unusual, but four legit pitching prospects all going down in spring is not very common. Not suggesting a conspiracy by any means, but this is definitely some really bad luck.

If they think the stuff can play up as a starter, I’d much rather see Smith get those opportunities while Thorpe is out. Last time he pitched though I don’t think he went very long did he? As for Baldwin, I still have him on the OD roster, but the amount of playing time Meidroth is getting overall and at SS specifically makes me feel like he’s the guy who gets the nod at SS now. I love Baldwin too and would prefer him to get the first crack since his clock has already started, but not what I think they will do.

New 26 man roster projection: Lineup: 1B: Vaughn 2B: Rojas* SS: Meidroth 3B: Vargas LF: Taylor CF: Robert RF: Tauchman* DH: Sosa CA: Lee Bench: BC: Thaiss* IF: Drury OF: Fletcher* UT: Baldwin# Rotation: Martin Perez* Cannon Burke Gilbert* Bullpen: CL: Anderson SU: Varland SU: Smith MR: Clevinger (🤮) MR: Booser* MR: Murfee MR: Ellard* LR: Wilson

I mean you just said that’s four like Thorpe already had the surgery

Does Carela accrue service time? He was never on the 26 man roster, so a bit different from Bush and Berroa.

Thorpe?

Bush, Larson, Carela, & Berroa already with TJS!! That’s three top 25 prospects plus a young reliever expected to factor in the closer mix this year. Holy f*** that’s a bad start to the season.

JFC

It’s certainly less of an issue with Meidroth. Just feels unnecessary to put him on the OD roster and easily avoidable.

There is no guarantee it will matter, but I can’t really get behind potentially sacrificing 160 games of a player down the road for 20 games right now. That is even more the case when we will likely lose 110 games this year and are multiple years away from competing. I also don’t think there is any draft compensation upside by having him on the OD roster since he’s not a top 100 prospect. IMO, there really isn’t much upside from it beyond a little short-term positive affirmation.

I think this only tells part of the story. These teams had MVP caliber QBs for long stretches during this time. If you look at last year, the Super Bowl champs have a former 1st round RB and so did the regular season NFC champs (both were top 10 selections). I think it’s too simple to say don’t ever select a RB early in the 1st round…however, I think it’s critical to have most other key pieces in place before you make a big investment in RB. IMO, we should be able to get a high-end RB prospect in the 2nd all while adding a significant prospect for the trenches in the 1st. And if we don’t love the guys available with our 2nd picks, there will be legitimate RB talent in the 3rd as well.

Lefty on the mound?

I will be very bummed if we don’t wait two or three weeks to call up Meidroth and throw away a year of team control. Obviously it’s far less egregious of a decision than rushing a less ready, higher ceiling player in Montgomery but it would be super easy just roll with Amaya for a couple weeks before swapping him out for Chase.

Reported where? That would be massive news and all over Soxtalk, Twitter, Reddit, etc.

Again, I think he’s referring to Ishbia taking and potentially putting his own guy in place to run things.

Where are you coming up a theoretical 40% number?

I think he means when Ishbia takes over.

Personal attacks? You continue to say wild stuff on a message board and then expect a free pass. Billion dollar transactions don’t happen in the open and to suggest otherwise is either blatant trolling or a level of ignorance that’s beyond comprehension. Ishbia & Jerry don’t owe us s%*# and they aren’t going to risk their massive deal falling through to keep you up-to-speed.

Amaya is a perfect two week placeholder if you want to buy a year of control with Meidroth before adding him to the 40 man. I’m not even convinced they will play the service time manipulation game with Meidroth, but that’s how you’d do it.