Chicago White Sox

Getz basically has add four or five legit positional prospects (including a couple high ceiling ones) this deadline or during the offseason from trading off Robert, Crochet, & Fedde. Just feels like that could be a very tall task. I do love Smith’s upside, but it is a bit terrifying that we still don’t know Getz’s view on building an offense. I 100% get the risks that come with Jac and Griffen, but at least it would have signaled Getz is willing to swing for the fences for high impact positional players. Right now, his biggest additions on the offensive end are a pair of highly questionable, low upside OF prospects in Fletcher & DeLoach.

Holy f***

I’d assume Condon, but also thought it was all but certain he’d go #2

Wow, Burns going second is a shocker

Would have loved to see Weatherholt go #1.

You literally do no research and just spit out pessimistic bullshit. Go look at what free agents are signing for. Jorge Soler got 3/$42M this offseason….if you think a $20M option for Luis Robert is negative value then you are totally lost.

$50M of surplus value is like one 55 FV positional prospect and a 45 FV pitcher. You’re saying you would accept that for Robert?

Way too little. I wouldn’t trade for less than $80M or $90M.

Yeah god forbid those $20M options…?

I don’t see why the Mariners would trade for more pitching

The Dodgers’ injured list is absolutely wild. Feels like Fedde would be a perfect fit for what they need right now.

That’s really shitty to hear

I’d be super nervous building a trade around Snelling right now. Without having all the facts admittedly, I’d worry there could be some sort of injury contributing to his problems. Too risky in my mind to be a co headliner.

As for the Padres, I just don’t see a good fit even if they were willing to give up De Vries. Baltimore remains the best theoretical fit, but obviously doesn’t feel very practical with how Elias operates.

I will say that Jones’ lack of hit tool development this year has tanked him value some and he would not be an appropriate headliner for Crochet. While Arias is not mentioned, he is another guy many here wanted and he’s currently striking out at a +30% rate in Low A, so another guy unfit to headline a Crochet trade. Feels like we’d Dominguez as a centerpiece and there is no chance in hell that the Yankees would do that.

Figured this would be a fun one to discuss, so splitting out from the other miscellaneous threads. Couple quotes from Bob on a potential Crochet trade:

Small nugget from Bob on Fedde: Nothing really new there but always nice to reaffirm that the return should be good. I will add that Bob also speculates the Mets, Rangers, & Cubs may not sell, which would definitely help boost Fedde’s value even further.

Latest from Bob on Robert trade market: Also worth noting he says that the Mariners are a favorite for Jazz while the Phillies have no interest in him (he is a lefty). I still think the Phillies are the most likely suitor for Robert despite Rosenthal’s speculation on willingness to give up big prospects (just doesn’t align with how Dombrowski has operated).

Ramos is struggling in AAA and definitely needs more time down there.

If you could get Griffin to agree to #8 slot money, you’d save just over $1.2M at #5. Combining that with the 5% bonus overage of ~$700k would give us $2.0M to work with. That could allow you to scoop up a pair of high upside prep arms with our second round and comp pick tonight. To keep things simple, adding $1M of those funds at #43 would give you $3.2M to work with or roughly #28 value overall. Adding the other $1M to #68 would give you $2.2M to work with or roughly #43 value overall. Feels like that could get you Ryan Sloan at #43 and Joey Oakie at #68 which alongside Griffin would be a pretty sweet day one and wouldn’t require you to go underslot anywhere else in the draft.

How much do you think price would be factoring into that preference? If you believe what Callis is saying, does that hold true if both commanded full slot?

Upon further review, I have officially convinced myself I want Jac at 1.5 despite the bad history of 1B picks. From a physical standpoint he’s the dream for 1B (the opposite of Andrew Vaughn) and the chase rate is much less concerning when he’s got such a high outside the zone contact rate. I will always believe that winning at the Rate requires a lineup filled with power hitters and this would be a great first step in addressing that need on a timeline that fits with most of our young pitchers and more advanced positional prospects. If not him, then I think you roll the dice on an underslot deal with Griffin. He was the guy I liked most heading into this week, but I do worry about this org being the one to fix major swing issues. That being said, we can’t expect Getz to sign any true stars in free agency with Jerry still in charge so we must go after ceiling at the top of the draft every year. And no one appears to have a louder sets of tools than Griffin. Eventually pairing him with Wolkow would be pretty fucking wild and fun to follow.

Mayo has us taking Montgomery with Jac, Griffin, & Smith on the board and suggests Kurtz, Rainer, Griffin, & Smith would be other options here (no Jac).

It’s both weak at the top and also has a massive dropoff after the top 10 to 15 players. But there is a lot of good HS arms and having $2.4M in additional slot and the #39 would allow us to be more aggressive in that area. A guy like Ryan Sloan probably becomes a much more realistic target with those extra dollars and that’s a super exciting addition at the cost of Kopech (but maybe I’m biased here).

Seems like the perfect time to trade for a draft pick since you now know who might be available when and for how much. And I get it’s a bad draft, but that doesn’t mean talent won’t be available at #39. That $2.4M in slot value the pick comes with would allow us to a lot of cool stuff with five picks we’d theoretically in the top 78. Obviously it all comes down to the cost, but an org top 5 prospect and the #39 pick (even a bad draft) seems like an absolutely incredible outcome in a Kopech trade.