Chicago White Sox

Two top prospects plus Sheets is a massive overpay IMO. Like you said, Ramos could be a top 100 prospect as soon as July. Thompson was an overslot 2nd round pick who got a $2.1M bonus (Chase Petty got a $2.5M bonus and was the sole return for Gray). And Sheets hit RHP very well last year and actually passes the eye test from a quality at-bat perspective. I’d actually downgrade my offseason score if they gave up all three of those guys for Manaea.

I have never heard of this guy in my life

Oh that I could see, but seems like they’d give him a few weeks as a long man. As horrible as he looks right now (and it’s really bad) it’s still just spring training. Not sure they eat $18M that quickly.

From today?

Them little legs tire out easily unfortunately

I think he’s starting to convince me of that

Meatball city right now

You think they’d cut Dallas if they acquired Manaea? Can’t see it happening.

The price of Manaea is skyrocketing by the second

That didn’t take long. Is it serious?

Yup, Manaea is just not the type of pitcher to command a ridiculous haul as a rental.

160 this year correct

Collins has options, Zavala does not. That keeps him alive for a bit longer.

I’d trade one of them plus other things for Manaea, but just not both of them when it’s still very likely one of them could see a decent amount of playing time this year. And I think both is a massive overpay relative to what other rentals have gone for IMO.

TBH, I wouldn’t be against using Dallas as an opener for Kopech if all six guys are healthy and let him pitch once through the lineup. Then when someone goes down he slides in as the #5 starter.

Yup, my thoughts exactly.

It seems inevitable that Manaea ends up on this team.

Gray has a second year of control though

On MLBTV right now!

I’d definitely pay a little more if I was able to extend him, but I wouldn’t trade both Burger & Sheets for him regardless. One of them is important depth and a potential replacement for Abreu if he decides to hang them up after the season.

I would have preferred Gray personally the costs were comparable and he has the extra year of control.

What kind of return do you anticipate Manaea commanding?

Either way there is no way he doesn’t 1/$15M in free agency. Realistically he gets something similar to Canha in the realm of 2/$26M. Either way I see zero argument for him being overpaid based on expected performance for the 2022 season.

If Burger were to put up a 2 win season for OAK this year like Zips projects, I’d wager he’d have much more value than one year of Manaea. Whether OAK wants to take that gamble or even believes in his talent remains to be seen, but people are really sleeping on Jake IMO.

Burger is projected as a 2 win player right now by ZiPS, so I’d argue a decent amount. I mean the kid missed a ton of development and still came back with big numbers despite skipping two leagues. Plus he got his body into shape where he can play a solid 3B. He is not some throw in and you certainly don’t trade both him and Sheets for one year of a 3 win pitcher.