Chicago White Sox

Wow, he blew MLBTR’s 3/$27M projection out of the water.

McMahon will cost legitimate prospect capital.

Who is the better fit for this offense? Segura or Escobar? IMO, Escobar would be the much more valuable 9th hitter in the lineup than the guy who further compounds our groundball problems. Segura is a nice player and the K rate is good, but he’s not worth $14.5M given this team’s specific needs. Just sign Escobar for $10M/year and reallocate the extra $4.5M elsewhere. Trading Kimbrel for Segura would be Hahn trying to save face IMO.

You’re ok blowing $14.5M on a right-handed groundball pummeling 2B?

Because he makes $12M less than Segura.

Segura has a 52.1% groundball rate and .146 ISO. Escobar has a 31.5% groundball rate and .219 ISO. I wonder which is the better fit for our offense? ?

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Those names probably aren’t target. I’ll maintain Conforto & Gausman are the two guys they are pursuing.

Yup, I still don’t think Bob is leaking the right names though. But at least Hahn read through the Graveman thread and was like “I guess I better have Bob leak some plans to shut those whiney fucks up”.

Gausman & Conforto confirmed.

This guy knows jack shit and has been throwing some BS around. Tried to say we were close on Conforto and then quickly backpedaled. He might be Orlando if I had to guess.

Hendriks, Bummer, Graveman, & Crochet should be an excellent back end of a bullpen. We still need to add at least one more solid RH reliever, but that need becomes much less pressing with the RH setup role now filled. And it would have been super dangerous to wait until after the lockout to start addressing, so really glad they didn’t dick around.

And the best part is the Sox will likely add a few cheap, potential breakout relievers to round out the pen. But no contender goes into a season and banks on a bunch of unproven guys are hitting. It’s absolute insanity and the people bitching Graveman now would be ripping Hahn to shreds come July.

And you apparently hate all veterans and dislike filling major holes while trying to compete.

Lol…you’d be bitching about their shit bullpen come July when all their unproven guys flop again next year. And then you’d b**** about having to overpay for quality relievers at the deadline. It’s an endless cycle with you guys…rinse repeat year after year.

I’m totally fine if they someone wants to make a case against Graveman and/or why he’s likely to regress (and not just cite his lack of track record). But to be mad about spending $8M on a setup man when we desperately needed one? It’s clear some people can’t get the Kimbrel move out of their head and will ignore the reality that he will be gone soon enough and will need to be replaced if we’re serious about competing.

Good player, bad fit. And not worth burning $14.5M on when good 2B can be had on the cheap.

Linebrink was signed in 2008…lol.

Is this a real question? Scouts don’t just look at a pitcher’s ERA and say “that’s fine”. They are actually “scouting” the player and coming up with a go-forward outlook for him. Clearly our pro scouts believe the 2021 version is here to stay. They could be wrong, but it’s stupid to assume they do no due diligence prior to a material signing.

Who have they bought at the peak exactly other than Hendriks? They literally tried rolling out a bunch of young, self-developed types last season and most of those dudes crashed & burned. Let me guess, you’ll reference Kimbrel again despite all trade deadline additions being bought at peak value.

Nope, he just thinks we should easily be able to add three Graveman type relievers on the cheap this offseason before they actually break out. Easy Peasy.

This is just arrogant and stupid. You’re basically assuming the dude is a one year wonder because he doesn’t have a track record as a reliever and are acting the like the Sox should be able to pickup quality setup fairly easily on the cheap. Maybe you missed the memo, but our RH setup man before this trade (once you accept the fact Kimbrel will be gone) were some combination of Jose Ruiz, Ryan Burr, & Matt Foster. To think we didn’t need to sign at least one quality arm in free agency is comical. And maybe, just maybe the Sox pro scouting department believes the dude is here to stay as a reliever.

Once the Sox trade Kimbrel, they will have two highly paid veterans in their bullpen. The remaining guys will be cheap and/or self-developed types with Bummer, Crochet, Ruiz, Lopez, Burr, etc. You’re clearly lumping Kimbrel into this despite not being part of the go forward plans.

Come on man…they needed one decent right-handed setup man because Kimbrel is as good as gone plus they’re losing both Tepera & Kopech from the bullpen as well. Also, this will not stop them from addressing all their other needs (2B, RF, SP, etc), so no reason to be overreactionary here.