Chicago White Sox

Sadder if it were true

I mean, this isn’t even remotely true

I would not trade Gonzalez for the 34th pick in the draft. At that point, you’re lucky if the pick ends up as good as Jacob.

Any word on Thorpe?

Why would Jerry be afraid to commit $14M next year when we have one of the lowest payrolls in baseball?

The good and the bad of the pitching staff is all the value is all coming from a couple of guys. We have one TOR starter, one mid rotation starter, an elite RH reliever, and two strong LH relievers providing 7.6 fWAR while the rest of the staff is a combined -1.3 fWAR. And that figure is -2.0 fWAR if you exclude Kay, Schultz, & Davis who are all positive value at the moment. We first need to get guys healthy and onto the major league roster. Schultz will eventually fill the open rotation spot, but we need someone to bump Fedde and potentially Kay to really make progress in the rotation. Mason Adams is now in striking distance and I’m not writing off Sandlin, but Shane Smith & McDougal are the guys who could really move the needle. As for the bullpen, external help will likely be needed, but Wikelman Gonzalez, Palette, & maybe Peoples could all be possible upgrades over the trash LH relievers we are using right now. And some of the guys who are potential SP options could factor in here as well. There is hope if we can get guys back & healthy.

100% agree. Sox will need to sign a legit TOR starter this offseason and have zero excuse given our financial flexibility (assuming there will be some in free agency). Martin, Burke, & Schultz should all stick if healthy. Plenty of options for the #5 spot between McDougal, Hagen, Shane, Thorpe, & Adams. Kay is either a swingman or traded for whatever. There is roadmap to quality rotation for next year…this year has just been plagued by injury and in the case of Schultz (so far) some development woes.

100% agree

Adams has a hell of an opportunity if he can find his form fast. Also helps that his velocity appears to be up a tick since coming back. He could end up being a surprise contributor with all the injuries.

f*** the Yankees…we still got this

Was he on the bag?

What is the hand gesture they do after every hit?

Tickle those balls!

Let’s do something here Chase

“One of the worst teams in the MLB”…this post stinks 😉

Feel good about this prediction

My untouchable list is Gonzalez (if we still consider him a prospect), Bonemer, H. Smith, McDougal, Carlson, & Fauske. There are several others I wouldn’t move because their value is too low vs. their upside in Oppor, Larson, etc, but otherwise I’m open to moving pretty much anyone else. Not a ton of them, but three or four prospects to add one good starter and a decent reliever. I just believe in this positional group and think the pitching will be much better than it is today once healthy.

We have Murakami for one more season, which could be lockout/strike shortened. Wild that so many people are scared of giving up B & C tier prospects to help our chances why we have him.

That is a terrible challenge

But we’re still gong to win this one

Not a great start!

Where is the one for tonight?

This is a way too simplistic way of looking at things. Going “all in” at the trade deadline may be foolish, but augmenting your roster with non elite prospects is something any serious GM should be doing to some extent. And in the case of the Dodgers, they traded away a single piece as they had soured on the player and were able to get a nice return. They are also not a good example of anything when they can rock record payrolls that allow them to accumulate significant depth during the offseason.

I think so. I pointed out in the gamethread, but we have literally whiffed on three trades for controllable LH relievers. So far, Booser, Gilbert, & Murphy have combined for -0.6 fWAR and have cost us Fajardo (now the Cardinals’ 11th overall prospect per BA), Combs (a semi interesting relief prospect in AA), and one of my old favorites Ronny Hernandez (who has a 191 wRC+ as a 21 year old catcher in High A). These all felt like Bannister targets and all have failed to various degrees. I wouldn’t expect a 100% success rate on these types of acquisitions, but at least one and ideally two should have worked out. And there are many other red flags, such as Iriarte’s stuff almost immediately regressing when we got him, Oppor completely falling apart, Hagen being an inconsistent mess, and the plethora of injuries we have faced over the past two seasons, but don’t have the time to go into all of those.

To be fair, Emerson was ahead of Lackey coming into the season, so he didn’t really need to “jump him”. And the debate on Emerson vs. Roch has always come down to floor vs. ceiling. Scouts generally consider Emerson to have the higher ceiling and to be a better prospect than Roch was at the same age. That doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a better prospect, but explains why scouts may like him more than Roch. You also keep screaming about Lackey having the best “production”, but how did he stack against Roch a year ago and against Emerson when he was still in HS?