Chicago White Sox

You think if Moncada was a free agent in free agency and was willing to accept a two year deal he’d only get $70M? I think that’s at least $10M short if not substantially more.

Where are you coming up with $15M to $20M in savings?

Not sure about potential trade partners, but I’m all for it if we can get a controllable reliever / bench piece or a lower level prospect with some ceiling in return. I love what McCann brings to the table as a backup catcher, but his value is wasted in a 40 game role. Again, if a solid return can be realized, then I’m all for Collins being the primary backup and seeing what we have in him. For those saying we’re doomed if we trade James and Grandal goes down, let me reiterate that McCann is gone after the season anyways. This is a one year luxury at best and I’d rather think long-term here by acquiring an asset with more control while also seeing what we have in a flawed, but highly interesting young player.

Now that Fake Steve Cishek has proven to be legit, I think it’s time we take his James McCann trade rumor seriously: What are your thoughts on a potential trade? Where could he go and what might we get in return? Who gets the backup job if he’s moved?

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I’d still put my money on Colome. I’m not going to let a few Spring Training appearances change my perspective. Yes, his second half was bad, but that seemed like regression to the mean to me and I fully expect Ricky to give him a pretty long leash this year. If he does struggle, I think Bummer becomes the guy. Burdi is a fun watch right now, but he’ll need to prove himself in AAA first and will likely be eased into low leverage situations once he hits the majors. He’s much more a threat for the 2021 closer job IMO.

I’m not sure if it was actually reported or listed in here, but Fangraphs has an excellent payroll tool and it shows the amounts for this extension as follows: 2020: $2M 2021: $7M 2022: $14M 2023: $18M 2024: $24M 2025: $25M* So the total arbitration commitment is ~$40M if you include the small increase he got this year. For some comps, Machado got ~$32M over his three arbitration years while Arenado got ~$34M. Also, Bergman’s extension was worth ~$44M in his first four years, which is ~$3M higher than Moncada’s deal. His two options years were worth $57M vs. Moncada’s $49M or ~$8M less. Obviously there is some inflation built into this deal, which is also reflected in the Bregman contract. That being said (and despite Balta’s ridiculous injury theory), we are paying him star 3B money for his three arbitration years. The real value is those two free agent years we’re buying. In all honestly, those are probably worth somewhere in the $80M to $100M range and we’re getting them for a reasonable $49M. Yes, we need Moncada to be a star, but if he is this deal should provide quite a bit of surplus value right when our core guys are starting to get expensive. Just an amazing deal all things considered. https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/payroll/white-sox

Thanks for sharing that patc!

Why would Moncada & Robert need buckets of money after their initial signing bonuses? They don’t and still signed extensions anyways. That is all the proof one should need to understand Jose’s impact here.

I’m not a doctor, but my guess is it’s hard to do a ton of cardio while rehabbing from two Achilles ruptures. He did say he was doing quite a bit of swimming though.

Just read through the thread, but this is an absolutely fantastic deal. Bregman got 6/$100M when he was in the same exactly position and I fully expected Yoan to get that much or even more. This now gives us a legitimate six year window to dominant the Central. I am so fucking pumped about this. Props to @Y2Jimmy0 for being on the money once again and being recognized by some of the biggest writers / insiders in the game.

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JFC just stop.

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Excellent article. You guys really need to create additional Patreon tiers because the content is worth more than $2M/month IMO.

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His spring training performance will have zero impact on any potential extension.

I think Madrigal is the superior player right now.

Has this actually been confirmed?

Where is this “giving up shit” coming from?

Look, do whatever you want to, I just think your formatting will drive people away. If the “content and analysis” is really what’s important to you, then you should make the change. If you simply care about your pride, then stick with the italics. Again, I’m not trying to be a dick, was just trying to give you some friendly advice.

I’m really not trying to be a dick and can respect your logic for using the italics, but in all honestly it makes your posts much less friendly to read. I would highly recommend changing your style or people will likely skip through your posts.

Are you actually calling Jim Callis lazy?

No way to watch today’s game?

I agree. McCann is gone after this season, so if he’s really that critical to competing then we are big trouble anyways. If I can get a useful piece back for him, I’d be all for it.