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Are you really arguing that somehow Courtney Hawkins could have figured something out because of four spring training at-bats?

FIFY

How many are left in camp?

Lol...why the fuck did you feel the need to insert a giant blurb on Courtney Hawkins in the middle of that because of four spring training at-bats. You really are your own worst enemy Caulfield.

I’m not suggesting we lose sleep over it, but he’s not some hack.

Fangraphs had him ranked as a top 100 prospect last year as 1B. I personally think there is some hope he can stick at catcher, but the scouting community violently disagrees.

I honestly think he’s Rick Hahn’s son or Don Cooper...one of the two.

What two free agent years are you referring to? This extension only got us one extra year of control.

Yeah, this is wrong. You seem to have good insights, but also may be related to Rick Hahn.

He’s mostly right there...unless you’re factoring in White Sox scouts

Only this organization would pass on Witt because of a “no HS player in the 1st round” policy.

I’m fine with this extension, but what he’s worth and what he would make going through the arbitration process are two separate matters and Kiley is missing the mark here IMO.

You have a fair point with other threads, but people have a right to be pissed in this thread after listening to Rick Hahn’s interview. It totally reconfirmed all our worst fears about this front office and ownership group and that’s something worth discussing IMO.

This thread is about an interview Rick Hahn did that touched on the Machado miss and other issues the fanbase has with the organization right now? Why the fuck would we not be talking about this here?

Well if you actually listened to Hahn’s interview, he was pretty salty about the fanbase being outraged. That alone makes the non-stop b****ing from myself and others worthwhile IMO. But beyond the message board b****ing, maintaining the anger will help suppress attendance and impact the bottom line, which is the only thing we can do as fans to voice our displeasure and help force change even if this accountability-free organization is unlikely to do anything about. Again, if you want to enjoy this shit product the more power to you, but stop trying to make Soxtalk your own little safe space.

No offense bud, but if you’re looking for rainbows & unicorns, then maybe you should stick to Scott Merkin fluff pieces and avoid Soxtalk altogether for some time. People have a right to be pissed about the state of affairs and the moment we take our foot off the front office’s throat is the same moment they win despite what has been a lackluster product for nearly a decade now.

Gotta disagree here. Both the minors and free agency were going to have an impact on the rebuild’s success. A huge part of the value proposition of a rebuild is the financial flexibility that comes with it and Rick Hahn said as much when we kicked this thing off at the beginning. And no offense, while it’s great you don’t give a fuck about Machado for some reason, that also means you honestly believed relying solely on prospects was somehow going to work and that’s just horribly flawed logic. I normally agree with most of your opinions, but must respectfully question your view on the Machado / free agency angle here.

What other alternative was there? We had no farm system and limited financial flexibility? It was always going to be rebuild or bust whether you like that strategy or not.

Lol...we can’t even sign guys like JDM or Goldschmidt under these parameters. If these clowns are serious, the rebuild is completely fucking doomed.

But you just said it, the market is top heavy with team prioritizing under 30 stars for good reason. We’ll basically be fishing in the over 30 category and history has suggested that’s a dangerous game to play.

I agree, but they will be older, high risk guys unfortunately.

Trout was never going to happen, but it take another star out of the general free agent pool meaning it will only be harder for us to ever land a young impact player.

No one in the world is buying White Sox tickets for Carlos fucking Gonzalez...you’re taking this marketing stuff way too far Caulfield.

I’d honestly rather have Jay than Cargo.

You do remember when he called it a good offseason right? Said his colleagues told him so.