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QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 02:45 PM) Great stuff in here http://m.mlb.com/news/article/161178212/wh...th-gordon-in-kc I wish any of it was actually based on sources, however, it's Phil Rodgers.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 10:43 AM) Interesting seeing the Orioles tied to Upton after Jesse Sanchez reported White Sox and Orioles were favorites. Sanchez reported Sox and Orioles were favorites for Yo. The Sox need Davis to stop screwing around and take the Orioles money.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 08:44 AM) Doesn't sound like he ever had real interest in going elsewhere Not sure who was using who...if the Sox were engaging Gordon to drive up the price for KC or if Gordon was just flirting with the Sox to get more from KC...

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 08:40 AM) The Royals have reached agreement on a deal that will bring star left fielder Alex Gordon back to Kansas City, MLB.com’s Jeffrey Flanagan reports on Twitter. An official announcement could come later today, assuming Gordon passes his physical. Per MLBTR This Alex Gordon ballgame is Ovah That sucks

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 4, 2016 -> 10:41 AM) It is not in the best interest of the Sox to do anything crazy right now. Let the market come to them. No point in offering a 4/$90M deal to Gordon if the next best offer is 4/$70M. Relatively crazy, so to speak. It's been reported Gordon's heart might be in Kansas City, so if Sox really want him, probably would have to beat any Royals offer handily. Since Gordon is the oldest of the three and has the most value tied to his defense, the years is the most important part of his offer than the AAV IMO. For example I would be more pleased with a 3/70 deal with Gordon than say a 4/85 or certainly a 5/100.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 4, 2016 -> 10:27 AM) Yes, I think it was along the lines of 4/50-54M IIRC. It might be in the best interest of the Sox to throw some crazy AAV numbers to these guys over a three year deal. After all, a 3-4 year deal would be in line for when the contracts for our core players starts to run out. Abreu (2019), Sale (2019), Quintana (2020), Eaton (2021), and Rodon (2021).

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 4, 2016 -> 10:14 AM) The depth of potentially interesting talent is still good, but that key T10 talent has slid back. Probably why the Sox are excited about those three selections in the first fifty picks of the 2016 draft.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 4, 2016 -> 10:03 AM) Unfortunately it's ideal for a lot of teams, Royals included. If Gordon ends up signing for 3/60 with options/opt-outs, I don't think he'll do it with the White Sox. Wasn't the Royals offer 12-13 million per year though?

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/chic...p-10-prospects/ Baseball America just released their top ten White Sox prospects for 2016 and they have a shocker at #10.

If the money and years were equal, give me Cespedes. But if the option is Gordon at 4/80 or Cespedes at 6/125 give me Gordon all day. I don't see a ton of difference between them. I guess time will tell once they both sign on the dotted line but I have a feeling Gordon will be the better value to his respective team.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 28, 2015 -> 03:37 PM) Reds have very little to show for trading Chapman and Frazier Would of gotten a HAUL for both of them at the deadline. Now....not so much.

QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Dec 28, 2015 -> 10:29 AM) With the current/rising market it shouldn't be that big of a deal to offer "a deal that would be record setting for the organization." That certainly shouldn't keep them from making the offer, it's just a reflection of the times. If you are going for it and think you need an impact bat to get you to that next level, you go ahead and pay the price. I wholly agree with you, it just would be very out of character for the organization to spend like that. However, with how the market for these outfielders is playing out, it would be a huge missed opportunity to not take advantage.

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Dec 28, 2015 -> 10:09 AM) Well, that would be missing out on all three, right? 3=Ces, Gordon, Upton. Correct. Worst case scenario meaning Sox whiff/pass on the big three and decide to platoon Parra/Garcia. Though we should keep in mind that Upton/Cespedes/Gordon are all going to sign a deal that would be a record setting contract for the organization.

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Dec 28, 2015 -> 10:02 AM) If the Sox miss out on all 3, you'll sense a lot of maxiaggressions! I just can't fathom that at this point with how the market is playing out. I think WORST case scenario is Sox go cheap and sign Parra as a platoon partner with Garcia.

JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 2m2 minutes ago Should say, I LOVE the trade for the White Sox. Traded 3 solid but likely complimentary pieces for solid everyday 3B.

For those of you who are bemoaning what we gave up, I'll just say the Sox are traditionally very good at knowing what they have in their own prospects. It was becoming more and more apparent that Montas was headed to the bullpen and Micah Johnson has a great offensive skill-set but could not stay healthy and had a lot of defensive shortcomings. As for Trayce Thompson, over seven(!) minor league seasons, he is a career .241/.319/.429 hitter. Not a single person on this message board would of been crying if we flipped in July for anything of value. His MLB debut was great, but it was a very small sample size and it is likely he will regress heavily in 2016.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) They've never been willing to deal those guys. That's been established. Hahn is on record multiple times saying NO ONE on the roster is untouchable and is usually answering the question in reference to Sale. I don't believe they would consider trading Q/Rodon for Frazier...but Anderson or Fulmer is another story. Glad to hear they are staying firm and waiting for Frazier's price to drop or looking for other alternatives.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 10:04 AM) As much as I have enjoyed reading about the Royals and circumcisions, the talks with the Reds have completely cooled. The Sox don't fit what he Reds want. I think that's a good thing. For a lesser price, maybe Frazier makes sense, but this isn't going anywhere for now. Jon Heyman tweeting yesterday was a Reds plant to drum up the market. Nothing to see there. If this means the Sox are standing firm on not dealing Anderson/Fulmer/Rodon/Q then this is excellent news. There are better ways to upgrade the offense then dealing a potential cornerstone.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 04:02 PM) Cespedes to the Angels. Gordon to the Cardinals. O's resign Parra and Davis. White Sox sign Upton. +1. Hope you are right.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 03:59 PM) Cardinals? Yes. Which I find hard to believe considering they offered Heyward 200 million.

Switch-hitter, good AAA #'s, some MLB experience...there is your 3rd catcher.

Yeesh. Nobody is going to give us salary relief on this guy so forget dumping him and hope for a hot spring training/start to the season.

I will be happy when he ultimately signs, because the (more) realistic Sox targets, Upton and Cespedes, will follow.

Myles Jaye, acquired from the Blue Jays along with Daniel Webb for Jason Frasor, came in at #17 on the FutureSox system rankings.

Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 38s39 seconds ago On minor league side, #WhiteSox acquired LHP Will Lamb from Texas for RHP Myles Jaye. Lamb was at both Double-A and Triple-A last season. Lamb is a 6'6' 25 year-old who he had a 4.42 ERA between AA and AAA last season all of the bullpen. He was Texas 2nd round pick in 2011 out of Clemson.