Everything posted by oldsox
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Viciedo to the 15 day DL
Sox need Calico Joe.
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Twins @ White Sox, 4/20/12
QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 20, 2013 -> 02:56 PM) I'd be fine with releasing Dunn. What a steaming pile of garbage. Our cleanup hiiter is now squarely on the "Dunn Line".
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4/19 Games
Stephen McCray has had some pretty good stats in his 2+ seasons of pro ball. What do the FSB execs have to say about him?
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4/18 Games
QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 01:19 AM) And I sometimes also wish you would make more relevant comparisons. Last time you compared Richar Shelby and Harris to Micah Johnson, now you are comparing Santiago and Quintana's situation to Sanchez? Really? Let's have sanity check here, we all know Santiago became a whole new pitcher after he learned the screwball, and pitcher developments are not the same as hitter developments. And why are you even trying to construe a misleading analyze for Quintana's minor league track? First of all he did not spend 6 years in A ball or below. He only pitched 5 innings as a 17 year old and was suspended his entire age 18. So if you want to count it, that's 3 years in Rk - A+, which is totally typical for a pitcher. He's also been consistently good those 3 years, but scouts didn't view him as a big time prospect because he lacked the "stuff", which he still doesn't have, but he pitches with the poise of a veteran, which is giving him the edge so far. Again, totally irrelevant to a batter's development. Also, why are you comparing Viceido and Gordon's position switch to Sanchez's? For the record, Sanchez never officially switched positions, he keeps bouncing around between SS and 2B, while Viceido and Gordon's switch were long term changes. His situation is more like the Tyler Kuhn situation, where he can fill multiple positions, but not spectacular at a specific one. If the organization doesn't even have a defined position for him, I wouldn't trust your "sources" and label as a plus defender just yet. It's very simple, if the organization feels he's a plus defender, he will be playing one position full time. If he's blocked by someone at his current position or another position opens up, then they will have him permanently switch over to the other position. That was how the Viceido/Beckham situations were handled. Really, none of the comparisons you offered really applies to Carlos Sanchez. What happened to Tyler Kuhn?
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How Much Rope Does Dunn Have?
Most baseball fans know the story of "The Mendoza Line". Maybe as Dunn hangs around the .100 BA level, it will become known as "The Dunn Line".
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How Much Rope Does Dunn Have?
QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 17, 2013 -> 10:15 PM) Agreed, I liked the signing as it made perfect sense. I hated the signing from day 1. I remember watching him play against the Rockies when he was at Wash -- he was awful, clearly on the downside of his career. Then we did a 4 year deal? And gave up a #1 draft pick? It was insane. What I don't remember is whether other teams were trying to sign him. Regardless, Kenny was flat out-negotiated by his agent. If he goes 0 for the next 5, he is batting about .100.
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4/16 Games
I believe....that Hawkins will figure it out and thrive, that Carlos Sanchez will continue developing, and both will be solid ML ballplayers. Mitchell and Thompson, not so much.
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Direction?
QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 11:18 AM) I agree...I mean there isn't much to gain by trading these young players right now anyways...you may be able to move some of the vets if they are desired by other clubs if things look bad at the break...but we can't possibly know these things now...this team is in a funk, but it's getting a lot of attention because it is coming right at the beginning of the season. This team is better than this, especially if Alex is going to hit this way again this year. I disagree. Talent-wise with position players, it is in the lower third of MLB. Easily, IMO.
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GT 4/15/13 Sox @ Jays 6:07 pm
Dunn got lucky with that HBP. He needs to go 0 for 13 to get to .100.
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GT 4/15/13 Sox @ Jays 6:07 pm
QUOTE (Capn12 @ Apr 15, 2013 -> 06:01 PM) That curve has NOTHING on it at all, just cement mixers rolling down the middle Sounds like George Costansa..... "I got nuthin."
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GT 4/15/13 Sox @ Jays 6:07 pm
Sox need to sign a Joe Calico.
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GT 4/15/13 Sox @ Jays 6:07 pm
QUOTE (Cali @ Apr 15, 2013 -> 05:54 PM) He looked like Kate Moss in the highlights of the Perfecto compared to how he looks now. Only 4 years ago. three.
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2013 April White Sox Catch-All Thread
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 15, 2013 -> 03:24 PM) An article titled "White Sox need to stop swinging so much" I wonder if Ventura even knows this stuff.......
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GT 4/15/13 Sox @ Jays 6:07 pm
I love it when the Toronto announcers analyze Gavin's delivery and explain why he is not very effective.
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GT 4/15/13 Sox @ Jays 6:07 pm
Dunn: First, he makes an out on the first pitch, sending his BA plummeting to the .130 level and wrecks an inning; second, he muffs a fairly routine grounder, turning it into a double; third, on the strike out to end the Jays' inning, the catcher threw to first, and he (Dunn) almost fell down catching it. They should just DFA him along with Leesman. Or, bring Leesman back. This is all in the first inning.
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2013 April White Sox Catch-All Thread
Joey Votto has more walks than the White Sox. 18-15.
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Is Ventura a good game manager?
Are they still hustling, or going through the motions?
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White Sox v Indians 4/12/13
Why did the Sox try to extend Ventura's contract?
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Konerko / Dunn
QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Apr 11, 2013 -> 07:50 PM) Just make Adam Dunn go away please. Waivers or DFA?
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4/11/13 White Sox @ Nationals - 6:05 (CT) - CSN
Top of the Wash batting order much too tough for Sox this week.
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4/11/13 White Sox @ Nationals - 6:05 (CT) - CSN
QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 11, 2013 -> 06:55 PM) Needed innings from Dylan, not mad at Robin. Taking out your starter in the fourth inning is tough business. Shame on Dylan for throwing over the middle of the plate so much. Hope this is the last we see of him this year. Not with a 12 man staff. No one is overworked (yet).
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4/11/13 White Sox @ Nationals - 6:05 (CT) - CSN
If these teams played ten straight games, Nats would win them all.
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It must be said - Hawk Harrelson has to go
QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 22, 2012 -> 02:58 PM) With MLB.TV on the PS3, I get to hear a lot of announcers. It's like a breath of fresh air, listening to people who are younger than 100 years old talk about the game and reference players from the 90s, and have conversations that engage me that I haven't heard a million times before - Hawk doesn't do this. Hawk's schtick - I am finally tired of it. You could just have a Hawkbot at this point and really have no idea he wasn't actually there. Cue up his catch phrases and have someone record player names in his voice. As for Stone, I think he's brilliant, and with the right sportscaster he can be great, but with Hawk it just doesn't work. The reason is simple - no one with Hawk will work. He always turns it into a dick measuring contest, cuts the other broadcaster off, and winds up telling me about some garbage player from the Red Sox in the late 60s. The tv feed needs a breath of fresh air, and someone who went to broadcasting school, a real broadcaster, doing the play by play, and then save the homerism and the baseball references for a guy like Frank Thomas to be the color analyst. I have spent my entire lifetime listening to Hawk. I have laughed at his calls for years. I have yelled "HE GAWN" "STRETCH" "HEEYEEESSS" "DAT GUMMIT" "YOU GOTTA BE BLEEPIN' ME" - I have enjoyed it. (not so much the "HELL YEAH" though) I am so f***ing ready for it to end and to finally have an on screen duo that entertains me. Let the flaming begin. You're not suggesting that Frank Thomas went to breadcasting school, are you?
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4/11/13 White Sox @ Nationals - 6:05 (CT) - CSN
QUOTE (Cali @ Apr 11, 2013 -> 05:31 PM) Axelrod's stuff is so bad it's literally boring to watch. He's just throwing junk up there, I have no idea what Hector did to Robin/Coop to make them banish him to the pen... Do you want junk? I saw Jeff Francis of rockies pitch against Giants yesterday. That was junk. Makes Ax look great.
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Game Thread Sox @ Nats (Floyd 0-1 3.00 ERA vs. Zimmerman 1-0 1.50 ERA)
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 10, 2013 -> 07:51 PM) The shame will be doing nothing with Rios' career renaissance....but we just have to tread water and hold the fort down. 1) Make determinations on Beckham and Flowers for the future. 2) See if Viciedo progresses. 3) See how many of the bullpen arms can be counted on, and that's always hit or miss (see Veal's disappointing start). 4) Mostly...wait on Sanchez, Thompson, Walker, Mitchell and Hawkins, maybe DiMichele. 5) Develop at least one more starting pitcher 6) Get back the old John Danks (crosses fingers) #4. Waiting on Walker, Thompson, and Mitchell...... will be a very long wait.