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QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 20, 2011 -> 08:33 AM) I'm actually surprised that outside of Pierre's dropped balls early on, the outfield defense hasn't come back to bite this team in the ass more often. Have you forgotten about Lillibridge's sleepwalking play in CF in Colorado? Yes, the same Lillibridge who is the offensive juggernaut Ozzie used to replace Dunn in the Tuesday lineup against the KC lefty.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 01:28 PM) I'm with you on that. I'd actually cancel our season tickets for 2012 if that happened. Having said that, there is no way KW trades Viciedo. He refused to give him up last year. Don't remember hearing that he was being offered in trade talks in the past. IMO, Viciedo is one of KW's last signs of credibility as a GM. If he becomes a star hitter, it will take off some of the heat from some of his other moves, such as the Hudson deal. Why do you insist that Kenny would never trade Viciedo? Because that would make Kenny look stupid? Or incompetent?

QUOTE (OilCan @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 08:27 PM) Viciedo is starting to cool off in July, hitting .227. At least he gunned down a runner at home tonight. Viciedo has to be getting discouraged.

Even Pittsburgh fleeced Kenny a few years ago. What was the pitcher's name we got? I'm guessing 2003. Of course, he couldn't get anybody out, and he was going to be our #2 starter.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 08:41 PM) We need bats Kenny!!!! What, you don't like Lillibridge as a corner outfielder?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2011 -> 09:47 PM) He would not make sense for any team. He can't field. He is a rotten hitter at this point and he can't run either. We can hope, though. Question: Why did Kenny sign Teahen? Answer: Because he hit MB so well. Way to go, Kenny.

He says Dunn BA is worst since 1893. Can someone get the link for me?

From here, it looks as if it is very important to Ozzie that he get paid for 2012 from Sox even if he manages Marlins.

Ryne Sandberg.

Does anybody have a report on RHP Ryan Kussmaul with the Dash? He has put up some impressive numbers.

Would Gordo ever have made it as a big league SS? I never saw him. I know he played SS at B'ham and a bit at Charlotte.

I noticed Detroit had SRO Friday night. Is Verlander that big of a draw? I know it's not the Sox.

I still remember the last out -- grounder to Uribe at SS, and he throws it in the dirt. PK picked it up routinely. Konerko has been criticized for his defensive play, but I always liked him. He is still great at getting balls in the dirt. Underrated.

This is two straight sub par performances from Verlander. He's a great pitcher, still human. Is this the last year for Mags?

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 14, 2011 -> 07:53 PM) Yep. They put him immediately in to Kanny, and he has hit very well. He is my new AAP, so naturally, I'm going to watch him closely. Any word on his defense??

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 15, 2011 -> 12:14 AM) The only way Dunn is going to turn this around, IMO, is change his approach. His bat speed is very slow and he rarely puts the ball in play. Lighter bat and change the funky bat bending behind his back. No way he will do either, so I predict no change in Dunn the second half. Please, please Ozzie bat him seventh (I'd prefer eighth but I realize no way in hell that would happen). Totally agree on your item #3.

What does Sale prefer? Starting or relieving?

Serafin also had a bad day. He is on the 40 man. Will he stay on the roster this off season?

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 03:54 PM) It's high enough to get a quality player in a good draft. Jackson should get us something. I would love a sandwich pick next year for Jackson. Just hope Kenny does not screw it up.

QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 08:15 PM) I don't think there will be management changes of any sort. Everyone involved with the Sox right down to the bugs in the field (actually, are there bugs in pro-ball fields?) would and have proclaimed that the team is under-performing and is capable of much more than the record shows. There were a few times I was baffled with Ozzie's management of the pen. Ohman coming in to face righties, Santos in extended save/non-save situations. Pierre was in a pretty awful funk and probably could have used some time off during that stretch, he's hitting again and he's had strong post ASB showings before. Rios. He's been a terrible human being all year. Thanks, Lilliflower, for the Chris Shelton-esque performance you gave there for a while, but you are what you are- not an everyday player. A pinch runner. How is Lastings Milledge doing, btw? De Aza? Dunn had an awful stretch and he's shown signs of breaking out. Even if he does, there is a good chance he'll end up with a down season for power numbers and a career high K total just because he does that on a regular basis anyway, and he's already racked up quite a few of them, even if he remembers himself all of a sudden. I don't blame Williams for signing him, and people who call for KW's head based on this signing are lying to themselves. It just hasn't worked out yet for reasons no one foresaw. Disagree; I hated the signing immediately. No other team pays those bucks for a DH. Posada is close, but he signed that deal with Yanks when he was a catcher. Ortiz well below Dunn's salary. They both have legacy with their teams. And four years? And a draft pick? There is not enough heat in Kenny's kitchen.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 02:48 PM) Good stuff. You forgot Danks. Gordon should be higher than Morel. Lillibridge should be way higher Lillibridge should not be higher. He made two great catches in one game and got a few hits early. He has been useless for at least a month and there was no excuse for that sleepwalking play in CF in Colorado. He should be gone next year. He peaked in April/May.

I watched most of the Rockies-Nats game. Everyone was swinging at first pitch, looked like the players wanted to get the game in quickly and on to the three day break. Even the announcers said so. Did the Sox game look that way?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 03:05 PM) At least we have Dunn and Rios turning it on in the second half to look forward to. .................not to mention, the next three years, too.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 03:11 PM) Fitting ending. Hawk says you have to tip your cap. Is Hawk overpaid?

QUOTE (OilCan @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 12:39 PM) RE: Chadd Krist, 13th round selection. http://www.dailycal.org/2011/07/04/looking...seball-in-2012/ Couldn't find any other stories than this. It's not a "set in stone" article, but just as well. Cal will play its 2012 games in Giants' home park.