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I think if you get 3 but you're set on Garland, try to trade back. As for last year's draft - I think Barrett gets taken at 9 to the Knicks over Knox and Culver would go at 10 to the Sixers. But last year was also a stacked draft.

I feel like Barrett and Culver could still be key pieces of a jumbo lineup, but it's way, WAY riskier than Zion or Ja.

I have to imagine their draft board is: Adley > Witt > Abrams > Vaughn Still hoping the O's and Royals outsmart themselves.

I'm convinced Herm was actually the entire training staff.

Well, this is a gut punch.

Oh, I know it's a long shot. It's just the next Buehrle label is almost like a kiss of death. Edit: Because Buehrle was so absurdly unique. If you never read this Grantland piece on Buehrle, read it. The Curious Case of Mark Buehrle

Rutherford just had a home run clear the stadium. God damn.

We just doomed him. (And Pilkington, Varnell)

Right now, all I can think of is people that named their daughters Khaleesi or Daenerys. You don't do that until a show ends.

Perhaps humidity could play a factor, resulting in a heavier ball?

#TheMoneyWillBeSpent on cutting Alonso at this point

I'm not a big Andrew Vaughn fan, but you're making me one. Vaughn is 5'11, not 5'5. He's also been graded as a solid defender, so who knows, maybe he has a good standing reach. In addition to this, he's not fat like you keep implying in threads, but has a strong build, kind of like Jim Thome. Unless you think Jim Thome is some sort of chunker. Moving on from his body, he's not a one tool player. His hit tool is what has skyrocketed him up the draft charts and it pairs with his tremendous raw power. Combine that with the ability to field his position, his only flaw is he's slow. Considering you keep bringing Abrams and Vaughn's weight up, I feel this is your issue. Regarding Derek Jeter, he also really liked Gordon Beckham. But we can let that slide, he wasn't running a team yet. What about when he is running a team? He traded Christian Yelich for Lewis Brinson, Isan Díaz, Monte Harrison, and Jordan Yamamoto. Giancarlo Stanton for Starlin Castro, Jorge Guzman, Jose Devers. Marcell Ozuna for Sandy Alcántara, Magneuris Sierra, Zac Gallen, and Daniel Castano. J.T. Realmuto for Jorge Alfaro, Sixto Sánchez, Will Stewart, and $250,000 in international bonus slot money. The above is Derek Jeter's haul for four highly coveted players in baseball that multiple teams tried to acquire. In fact, whenever I feel bad about our rebuild I think "it could be worse, we could have traded away Sale, Q, Eaton, and the bullpen arms for nothing like the Marlins did." I'm not trying to hound you from thread to thread, but your analysis boils down to "I don't like Vaughn. I like Abrams. Let me provide no truly substantive reasoning as to why."

Battenfield got promoted as well.

Man, I'd be ecstatic with Witt. Edit: But like the article mentions, if he gets past KC

Feel free to express your opinion, just be prepared for it to be called out when it's incredibly lazy. @bmags has very rightfully called me out for saying I thought Trae Young would bomb in the NBA. Your comparison of Vaughn to Collins and Burger seems to be limited to "can get on base and has power." It also appears that you just took two names White Sox fans would know at random, hence why I picked Micah Johnson and Ozzie Guillen. Let's go with Collins first. A left-handed, true outcome catcher with defensive question marks, good size. In college, his walks and strikeouts were fairly even. Grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 55 | Run: 30 | Arm: 45 | Field: 40 | Overall: 55 Now, Vaughn. A right-handed, advanced hit tool, undersized first baseman who fields his position well. Walks far more than he strikes out. Has ungodly OBP. Hit: 60 | Power: 60 | Run: 30 | Arm: 50 | Field: 50 | Overall: 60 Similarities: Slow runners, raw power, can draw walks. Differences: Positions, handedness, fielding capabilities, hitting abilities, strikeout rates, level of raw power, OBP (Vaughn's is absurd). Let's add Burger in. A right-handed third baseman, was named Gold Glover in his final college season. Pre-injury had decent enough speed for his size. Grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 55 | Run: 50 | Arm: 55 | Field: 50 | Overall: 55 Similarities: Right-handed hitters, raw power, can field their position well Differences: Position, speed (at the time, unclear how Burger has recovered), power levels, OBP (again, Vaughn's is stupid good), hit tool. Well, Micah Johnson had an 80 run tool and was blindingly fast. He played middle infield for the Chicago White Sox. That's essentially the depth of the analysis we were provided with Jake Burger and Zack Collins for Andrew Vaughn. So then you went and threw out Fernando Tatis Jr. as a comp for Abrams, which makes no sense in his present state. I've looked at film. But let's also look at grades of all three aforementioned players. Tatis: Hit: 60 | Power: 60 | Run: 60 | Arm: 60 | Field: 55 | Overall: 70 Abrams: Hit: 55 | Power: 40 | Run: 75 | Arm: 55 | Field: 50 | Overall: 60 Johnson: Hit: 55 | Power: 35 | Run: 80 | Arm: 50 | Field: 50 | Overall: 50 So Tatis comes in with far more power, whereas Abrams calling card is speed, much like Johnson. Tatis is a true shortstop, while we've already seen discussion about how Abrams might not stick at short. That sounds more Johnson than Tatis. So we've got a speed burner that might not stick at his position. Edit: If I were drafting, I might take Abrams over Vaughn, but that's because the Sox are in dire need of some non-1B/DH talent in addition to a "next wave" of prospects and I'd stupidly draft for need.

Ricky out here with his one dimensional connect 4.

It shouldn't, especially with the Top 3 being AL teams. And while him falling is slim, it's fun to imagine rotating Adley, Collins and Zavala between the DH and Catcher spot.

@bmags Connect. Mate.

Andrew Vaughn = Paul Konerko CJ Abrams = Micah Johnson ....or Ozzie Guillen Like, that's really the extent of the talent evaluation you just did.

Well, this answers my follow-up question.

It's the MLB Draft. It's a slim chance, but there's a chance. 2018: Mize eventually became the consensus #1, but Singer was for a long time. 2017: Consensus #1 Hunter Greene went #2 2016: Closest thing to consensus was Jason Groome (ended up going #12) or A.J. Puk (#6) 2015: Dansby Swanson was the lock. 2014: We all know what went down with Rodon. All it takes is some classic MLB GMs overthinking / falling in love with something. 1. Orioles decide that they want to take their time, they hired Witt's family, etc. and go for the shortstop. 2. The Royals decide they want Vaughn's hit tool / save some cash for a comp round pick. Fortunately, Rutschman fits the current White Sox draft modus operandi, so I don't see them passing him up if by some miracle he fell.

...fingers crossed.

- Seeing any smoke on Adley not being 1-1 is enticing. - Who in the hell sees Luis Gonzalez or Steele Walker as 1B/DH? Glad Law called that out.

Well, I was wondering how Skoug got promoted.