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So is Pat Riley, just as an executive. I want to know what happened between these two.

Jimmy suspended by the Heat and demanding a trade. Was his 1 year in Philly the only place he was happy?

Should, yes. But that's far too rich for their blood.

Unless Rojas, Slater and Tauchman go Super Saiyan to levels they never have, then he wouldn't be around for the next time the Sox are good.

To be fair, Tanner Banks was a homegrown arm.

I think for many it boils down to: Rojas in a vacuum - good signing, makes sense Rojas as part of a trend that began last year - concerning Vargas sliding into the 1B/DH also helps alleviate (similar to Sosa at SS like @WestEddy pointed out). I guess we need to see how Venable juggles this. If everyone plays their traditional positions, things get messy. If not, maybe we're cooking.

Yeah, I guess I wasn't considering Sosa as a SS, but if he's there then that clears up a lot of the jam. AAA gets a bit messy, but you just have to let that sort itself out.

He probably can. Like, Rojas is a fine player. I just don't get the strategy of signing guys that won't add to the win column in any drastic way and only really block prospects that need playing time. Like god, I've dunked on Vargas plenty, but he needs playing time. So do Sosa, Baldwin and Amaya. These aren't minor league guys - they're all in the major leagues right now, on the 40-man. That's not even counting Colson and Ramos. Or the DeLoach/Fletcher/Colas trio that will now be blocked by Slater and Tauchman. "Vet leadership" did nothing last year and these guys won't be around for the next winning White Sox team, so why???

Has a rebuilding team ever set out to become a halfway house for 30+ vets?

Not only does he not have a character limit (blue checkmark), he's well under the old character limit. It reeks of "Bowden just spewing his brain garbage," cause the only way this tweet doesn't work out for him is if Sasaki goes to the White Sox.

Nicky Lopez+

Eh, Shewmake was fine as a toss in. I've razzed the Bummer trade enough because it was mostly roster filler that the Braves (good org) dumped on Getz, but Riley Gowens had a good year. The problem is when Getz keeps doing this baffling thing of making moves to acquire age in exchange for youth. He did it so, so much last year. His better moves are the inverse, but even then Vargas is a red mark and the Cease deal comes down to how you view Thorpe's future in the league (and, again, he acquired an old reliever). We all saw last year that vet leadership means jack s%*# when it's devoid of talent.

Cause "seasoned" is the best compliment you can give a bad, old reliever and Getz's entire FO revamp has been stressing his ability to develop guys internally?

Or maybe a prospect like Yhoiker Fajardo?

Oh, sure. But the Sox drafted him for some reason and to trade him for an old AAA reliever is silly. Especially cause a good front office clearly thinks they're making the better move.

Bowden saying this makes me feel like there's a chance.

If the argument is that Combs had a high walk rate in college, then that means Shirley made a bad draft pick.

The baseball men are cooking.

https://www.sporcle.com/games/zFordesi/every-2024-white-sox-player This quiz still cracks me up. I got 52 and even that was daunting.

I mean, I'm on Team Getz Made Panicky Moves, but idk if they were early call-ups so much as Brad Keller, Nick Senzel and the parade of corpses that paved the path to the 121.

Instructions unclear, drafting Jeanty or Burden instead.

This isn't a haiku nor any other type of poem. I feel robbed.

Yes, that's exactly it. 100%. No other reason. Just cause TLR looked at him and said, "Phil, my boy! You are baseball smart!"

And sorry @Chicago White Sox, you've been a good poster for years here, but let's be 100: You once got so fed up with this team that you declared you were leaving Chicago for Nashville due to this team. Like, why should the anti-Getz Caucus (if we're truly going this route) support trading a young, live-arm for a 32-year-old carpenter? Hiring a guy toxic ex-manager to be part of the organization? Slashing the payroll to Fischerian levels? Should we be OK with Reinsdorf playing footsie with Dave Stewart and Nashville while the Ishbia brothers were apparently making offers? Like, what has the team done to deserve any benefit of the doubt?