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QUOTE (woods of ypres @ Jul 16, 2014 -> 11:20 PM) Flying Serpent? It's been his unofficial board nickname since his rookie year. Kyyle and I concocted it. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...p;#entry2607049 Feathered Serpent*, Flying works as well.

I just wanted to take a moment and point out that in fWAR amongst pitchers, Quintana is tied for 8th with Sale, Tanaka, and Richards. Obviously, Sale was hurt and is the better pitcher. But Q has been better than Scherzer, Price, Strasburg. He's been a top ten pitcher in all of baseball this year. His strikeout numbers and K/BB ratio keep improving. I think he gets under appreciating because we have Sale, but damn Q is awesome. He may legitimately be KW's best acquisition of his career. Q right now is an ace, but again, we have one of the aces in baseball and Sale overshadows him. Should be really grateful about having him and Sale and the head of rotation, locked up for peanuts. Hopefully Rodon joins them soon.

Wow, this is something else.

Red Sox karma?

Well there's the first double.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 15, 2014 -> 07:20 PM) Thank you McCutchen Seriously, thank God. Also that's the most effort he's put into a defensive play in years.

DEREK JEE-TAH

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 15, 2014 -> 12:52 PM) I believe the deadline to Amnesty Boozer is today. Nope, 17th.

If Aiken hired an agent, he can't go pitch in college, right? So...what happens there?

Highly unlikely he becomes a FA. If he did though...

If Rose is healthy and dominant, they win the title. If Rose is healthy and 80% the player he was, they get the 1 seed. If Rose is healthy and not quite back to All-Star level, they are Eastern contenders. If Rose is healthy and equal to DJ Augustin, they're a Top 4 seed in the East but have only a puncher's chance.

Milovan Rakovic, who we got in Orlando deal. He looks like he'd have no problem killing a man, we should bring him over.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 14, 2014 -> 06:17 PM) Finally got around to watching the Snell and DMD highlights from yesterday....I know its summer league but you still gotta be impressed with the range they displayed. I'm pulling for Tony to impress enough to be the starter along side Butler. Those guys length out there together is gonna make it really tough on opposing wings. I like this team. Somewhat surprisingly so do most of the talking heads on ESPN. SAS and Skip Bayless both think the Bulls are the team to beat in the East (yes I'm aware who those 2 are). There's been quite a few other guys that have said the same. If Rose is healthy it wouldn't shock me one bit if this team comes out of the East.....Even if Kirk gets hurt and they are forced to play Mike James 15 min per game. I know what you mean, but Butler has 0 length. He has T-Rex arms. He and Noah (who also has shorter arms) are just crafty, tenacious defenders.

This team reminds me of the 2010-2011 Bulls team on crack if Rose can be healthy.

Remember when he didn't suck?

I'm sure when Abreu hits a homer that just barely makes it out the pitcher goes "In another park, that stays in!"

Well, between McDermott, Snell, Dunleavy and Mirotic you should have plenty of shooting.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jul 13, 2014 -> 03:48 AM) $1000 Cubs win a pennant in the next three seasons. Do YOU take this kind of bet or no? Asking for a friend. Hell no.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 12, 2014 -> 09:55 PM) It's funny, b/c while not getting Melo was obviously a big disappointment, the Bulls are still in pretty decent shape for 2014-15 and with some luck might actually be better than that, but Bulls fans are really down on it (they're pretty much down on everything, all the time since the 2011 season). If this exact same roster was the Knicks, Knicks fans would be acting like they're already in the Finals, because Knicks fans are the complete opposite of Bulls fans. Melo going back to the Knicks was like a major coup, as if the team he went back to didn't just miss the playoffs in a historically bad conference WITH him. I give it two years before they look to trade him. They'll strike out worse than the Bulls in free agency and they still have very, very few picks to rebuild in the draft.

Just watched it again. 1) I miss the vest jerseys. 2) Pods was f***ing awesome.

I remember coming home from school, sitting down and turning on the game, and the first thing I saw was AJ getting to home...and getting punched.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 12, 2014 -> 05:47 PM) The Bulls never declared their only plan was to go all in on FA in 2014. Was always one of several possibilities. They know as well as anybody that you never put all your eggs in that basket. The TWolves are reportedly taking offers for Kevin Love. They don't need to move him now. They can wait 12 months and get more for him if they think that is necessary. He's not "available" in the same way Carmelo was. False equivalents. You and I both have no clue what we really offered or are willing to offer. This is BS speculation if you are going to argue that we didn't offer enough or something of that ilk. Perhaps the 16 and 19 aren't the assets you think they are. What possibility did we pass on to instead move up in the draft? And while you aren't a big Doug McDermott fan, you don't know a f***ing thing about how he'll do or how he is perceived as a potential asset by other GMs. Given this front office's track record in this part of the draft, he probably isn't believed to be (or actually is) is a non-athletic, non-second option player. I'd venture to guess there are several GMs that would have much more interest in McDermott than the 16 and 19 before the draft. This is where you're spouting more complete bulls*** speculation. Do you really think we left any doubt in Carmelo's mind about how much he might earn? You need to not selectively pick out your rumors about our courtship of him as we heard just as often that we laid out several options, including the option to get a maximum deal with us as we would spin off our various salary commitments. Melo could make as much money as he wanted with us. Be honest with yourself and realize that we will never know exactly what kept Melo away. Truth is that he stayed with his previous team, on his hometown, and will likely take an offer more lucrative than we were allowed to offer. We added a premier scoring talent in Doug McDermott, a many time All-Star post player who can both score and move the ball among the best of those at the position, added Nikola Mirotic who Fran Fraschilla says would have been a top 4 pick in the Supposedly amazing super draft of 2014 and have shredded salary on the process of all this. The team is really deep and added at least two more 3 point shooters, which are the new premium asset in the NBA. Melo could have come to the Bulls and gotten max salary, or he could have come to a Bulls team chock full of good players and gotten close to the max salary. Given what happened, who knows what turned him away. Heck, it could have been LBJ's soliloquy on playing for his hometown. Given the reported price for Love, I don't see how he makes sense for us. To be competitive with some of the other supposed offers, we'd probably need to give up Taj, Mirotic, Butler, and likely one or more future firsts. At that point, you're looking at a gutted team that is relying on Rose to be it's best player and needs to win before Noah's contract ends. If you says it's worth risking the need to rebuild to get Love in the fold... Then what's so wrong with instead spending a season finding out what you have in some of the new blood you've brought in here, instead? Either way, you're completely hitching your wagon to Rose. Love isn't even close to good enough to make the team a real contender without Rose, especially given that we'll lose depth to get Love. Without Melo, a guy for whom there is no evidence we ever could have gotten away from NY, we're stuck in this position: hoping our home-grown superstar gets back into stride. That's the truth. There's no one else we can reasonably get that remedies that issue. There aren't any other franchises that would expect any level of success without their best player on the court and healthy. We already did the difficult thing, which is get a superstar. Now we just hope he isn't Grant Hill. The Heat trio has warped the expectations of everyone. You can't just get all the best players to play for you. You'll soon realize they aren't even that great (Heat) or that it isn't even enough (Rockets, Thunder, Heat two times out of four). Your only shot at feeling anything resembling certainty is to get the league's best player on your team (LeBron) or stacking your team with "really good" players, as many role players as you can, and a superb coach (the guys that just beat LBJ). The latter plan is essentially what everyone wants to do in every other sport, which is just put the best team out there that you can. Bulls fans need to f***ing relax and be grateful that they're fans of one of the best run franchises in the league. Co-sign.

So who's the odd man out with Gasol? Taj or Niko?

Gasol to OKC has to hurt NYK's chances at Melo Nevermind, fake report from fake Woj account.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 01:18 PM) Stein said Bulls are trying to get Wade and Anthony! Yes on Anthony. No need for Wade if you get Anthony.