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QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Aug 7, 2016 -> 12:50 PM) James Shields to Matt Albers...it's really just a slap in the face at this point. Last time I pay my $ for MLB.tv to watch this team for at least a few years. They need to earn my trust that they are capable of putting together a winning team before I pay another penny going to the organization. Because I honestly don't believe anybody at the top of this organization is capable of doing so at this point. I think it's a great opportunity to look for a new allegiance since nothing will change in this organization. It's like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. How many times is it going to take to finally not kick the football. Unfortunately the local team out here sucks too.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 5, 2016 -> 12:19 PM) I don't know if anyone should have confidence in Hahn, I am just pointing out that they aren't going to try to make it work with the same players again. It will be a very different mix. Whether they still will be mired in mediocrity, I don't know. I choose to hope not, but I can understand if people think it won't work. But many of the same people who say KW, JR and Hahn have no clue, want these guys to get rid of all of their good players and choose prospects to replace them. I have no idea why someone would think that's a good idea with no confidence in the management team. The fact is, if you are going to totally rebuild and you are trading pillars of a core, you have to have the utmost confidence in the people tearing it down. If not, you are only going to make a bad situation worse, and worse for a long time. That's the way I see it. The Sox were not the only bad teams to not trade any of their star players.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Aug 6, 2016 -> 06:58 PM) Looking for a manager while your current manager is still employed, would turn off a lot of candidates Not really unless you have not reached a decision about the current manager.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 6, 2016 -> 09:40 AM) Next year is just going to be another attempt at winning with roughly the same team and new coaching staff. Sale, Quintana, Shields. Rodon, Gonzalez will be the rotation unless Shields goes in a waiver deal this month. They'll start the season with Melky, Frazier, and Lawrie. They'll sign two different catchers again. Same old stuff. That's a nice rotation many teams can't match. Gonzalez is doing well and doesn't get much praise. If you have a decent staff like that you don't blow it up. You build around it. As for Frazier I hope he will have a better season after a year in the AL. Same with Abreu. I think if the pen wasn't this bad the Sox would not be out of it. If they get leadership from inside the organization again, I expect mediocrity no matter who is on the field. The only manager that had two playoff teams this century happen to be a former player but got his coaching experience in another organization.

Nice to see that Anderson was in the lineup.

There's been a lot of give aways by the pen.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Aug 5, 2016 -> 09:49 PM) I don't really blast Robin for managing the pen right now. It's a disaster unless it's the 8th or 9th. His hands are tied. Isn't this more of Cooper's responsibility? He may have outlived his effectiveness.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Aug 5, 2016 -> 09:48 PM) Really? I mean this is a business and JR's business is suffering. It's time to bring in fresh blood. A new GM that reports to JR directly. Then a new coaching staff that can develop players and coach them well. Rebuild this thing and we'll be back on track in a few seasons. That's the only way to be good for a period of time. Otherwise it's lightning in a bottle. Is a waste of time with the same front office. It seems this is a pattern shared by Hah/KW. So it makes me think Reinsdorf is far more involved.

He's a SS. I could see some paranoia if he was a 1B/DH.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 5, 2016 -> 09:34 PM) Why is it that the umps always seem to oblige the opposing managers but refuse to review when the Sox request? It's like they have no respect for Ventura. They must read Soxtalk and WSI.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 10:45 AM) If we are being honest then maybe we should give him more than 2 months to be realistic about the situation. The league will adjust, and hopefully he will adjust like he did in the minors Sox fans are impatient the kids from the farm. They figure the team is so bad they gotta be better than the current roster.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 08:42 PM) I mean now. The sox have been better more recently at drafting. Trading Sale and Q would mean we're trading for successful organizations prospects. Only pitching. The rest is incompetence. They can't identify or develop position prospects.

QUOTE (shakes @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 02:42 PM) If that's the case then they suck at negotiating. As I stated earlier, many teams around baseball made good deals selling at the deadline. They are also bad at making hard decisions. Not selling last deadline put them at a disadvantage this offseason, just like not selling at this years deadline will hurt in the future years building this team. I wouldn't be too sure. Winning teams with a better farm system often get better deals. I would assume why the Sox didn't complete a deal is they were not offered enough position players. Some of the proposed deals two position players and three pitchers. Do the Sox really need pitching prospects? If you are giving up a Sale one of those position prospect better be close to the 2nd coming of Mike Trout and you have to be 125% sure on your scouting reports.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 07:39 PM) Interestingting http://southside.locals.baseballprospectus...ar-it-all-down/ Great article. Part of the "Cubs" model that everyone thinks will work was having success in the draft. So their organization did a great job in the drafting dept. That is something the Sox are not good at. They keep the same people who have not done anything to improve the team. I wonder how many of them are Reinsdorf's untouchables? How many of them are sought by other organizations?

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 01:46 PM) The sox get good again, those will rise. Hell I'll watch a rebuild as long as there's young prospects to watch. But not this s***. Have you been watching since this century? You've been seeing prospects under the KW/Hahn era and the result is s***. An organization that is bad at drafting, scouting, and development will not be any better with "prospects".

QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 04:35 PM) JR and Co. care about winning, in the ledger. As long as there's a percentage of the fanbase who believes that: A. Over-the-hill hasbeens will perform like the back of their cards. B. Long term deals will forever doom the franchise, and that financial flexibility is in their (the fans) best interest. C. They've done things in the same manner for years, but this time will be different. The White Sox will continue to be a mediocre at best on-field product. They will be looking for a new TV contract. IF you got rid of Sale, good luck with that one.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 09:29 AM) Those are pretty cool. If I were an Illini fan I'd be all over this. It's definitely got the wrong team on it.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 08:06 PM) I would add another option. For whatever reason, the FO took the trade deadline off. I am sure there will be talk of waiver deals for the rest of the month. But what about the manager. I would assume Robin or the FO will decide to end this after the season. But as I have posted a couple of times over the last few months, why wait?? Renteria would be a name the comes up when/if robin leaves. Why not test drive him now during a period where games will matter, at least to many of the opponents. Obviously, my suggestion would make no sense if the FO has come to the conclusion that Renteria would not be a candidate. Unfortunately I doubt a new manager could pick his own staff. Another Sox retread and I done until ownership changes and that ownership makes changes. We are the Detroit Lions of MLB.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 08:31 PM) I'm hoping the reason they didn't make major moves at the deadline is because JR is seriously considering changes in the front office. Wishful thinking though Yep, Gonna paint the doors a darker color.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 08:20 PM) There has to be some changes. Jerry can't be this naive can he? Yes. Some owners start with the manager.

This is the cursed Chicago team. not the other one.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 12:03 PM) Frazier doesn't make a lot of money. He'd definitely be claimed. A contender or team looking to contend next year can place a claim. I could see a NL team picking him up. This is his first year facing AL pitching. It would be interesting how his stats fare when the Sox play an NL team.

It's tough for announcers to deal with a s***ty and boring team.

At this point I bet even Albers could own the White Sox if he had to pitch to them.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 01:01 AM) As if it would really matter... How could this team get worse by having another subordinate personality on board? It could. Management isn't very strong.