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Put it on the board, Tyler!

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 9, 2015 -> 04:30 PM) The thing that we don't know... did Hahn put this club together in Kenny's vision for the club? Meaning, does Hahn think like Kenny? Or is he just doing what his boss wants him to do within the parameters of Kenny's approach? I'm a Hahn fan as a person and a communicator. If you promised me Kenny, Buddy, and the entire coaching staff gone, I wouldn't be against Hahn hiring his own manager and giving him three years to get a better path for this team. But, that won't happen. Which is a failure of Jerry Reinsdorf and why this organization desperately needs new ownership. He sets the tone at the top, and it is he who has put this dysfunctional management team in place. And the fact that no matter the continuing inability of this team to bring sustainable success to the organization and seemingly no accountability or repercussions for doing so, continues to point out that Reinsdorf is the real problem here. His failure has permeated the entire organization.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 9, 2015 -> 01:46 PM) Pods 0-3 maybe he will not be back Lol - Hawk, the only broadcaster in history to perfect the art of invoking the word "sphincter" into a broadcast!!

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 01:18 PM) A true rebuild will never happen when JR is in charge. The fans are too fickle and he is still mocked to this day for the last full rebuild he attempted (White Flag trades). Let's be very clear here. JR was not "mocked" because he attempted a "full rebuild". White Sox fans are just as fine with a rebuild as any fan base. In 1997, the year of the White Flag trade, the Sox were only a few years removed from a full rebuild that netted the Sox the likes of Thomas, Ventura, McDowell, Bere, Alvarez, Fernandez, Johnson, Melido Perez - just to name a few. The fan base lived through that rebuild in the late '80s, even as it was going on concurrently with the very real fan base-killing drama of the wonderful JR threatening to move the team to Tampa. If the fan base could survive all that was going on during that time period, they could easily handle a rebuild now. No, what JR was "mocked" for back then, and ever so rightly so, was for trading Alvarez, Hernandez, and Darwin away at the deadline when the Sox were in 2nd place and "only" 3 1/2 games out of first place. It was a travesty then and criticized not only by a fan base excited about a potential trip to the postseason - a rarity in the JR ownership years - but across baseball circles as well.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 11:19 PM) Been trying to think of a way to sum up the Sox organization the last 10 years. I can't do it in one sentence but these come close: "One step forward...two steps back." "Loyalty without Accountability" "When in doubt, blame the fans" It's a shame that another summer has been flushed right down the toilet. When all is said and done it'll be six of the last nine of them. Beyond sad now. Mark 50 of the last 55, to be exact. But hey! Don't be bitter now, as some others would wag their sanctimonious fingers at you and admonish you for being. Don't be bitter! It's just baseball, dontcha know. A win and a loss - bah! What's the difference! If you don't like the results, why, just go and get another hobby, they would tell you. How dare you expect more! And if it's blame you are seeking to assign, well then, look no further than the mirror, Fair Fan. It is all your fault! You and all of your excuses for not coming out to the ballpark - the Sox' lack of success is all yer fault! Why... Lol - I can't even keep that charade up of that ridiculous mindset, it's so absurd. But yes, to the poster's credit for pointing out, yet another wasted summer. When will it all change for the better? Time will tell, I reckon. A new management team seems like it would be a good start, but then there's still the issue of the "hands-on" owner who would still ultimately call the shots. He's overruled even the current management team over the years over strategic decisions, and look how well that's worked out for us. Oy! Looks like we are in for more of the same as long as the status quo remains in place!

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 07:11 PM) Why is that a putz move? Seems to me you should be applauding having nothing to do with a guy who was groome dby a guy who was the GM through 15 playoff less seasons leaving his minor league system in shambles. You so blind with the JR hate, even if he does what you want you moan about it. So we groomed him at a young age for a role we never actually gave him, fired him, and then watched him evolve into one of the most respected baseball execs around. Right around the exact same time we were letting LaRussa and Leyland go to also move onto bigger and better things. Much bigger and better things, to be exact. Certainly not blind to the lack of wisdom on the part of the current owner that led to these very poor personnel decisions.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 06:13 PM) Reinsdorf is such a putz. 35 years of putz-tastic ownership from the guy!

Whatever happened to "tie at home win on the road"? Absolutely no reason to send him on a ball that didn't get very deep into the outfield with the centerfielder racing in and with all the momentum in his favor.

Lillian's pick to click

You get the feeling Sanchez is very popular with his teammates.

There ya go, Hawkeroo! Some Baseball 101 for ya. A well timed wild pitch, just when we needed it!!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 2, 2015 -> 09:56 PM) Winning is nice, but I don't need winning to get enjoyment out of the White Sox... unlike some. Got it. Now at least we know where your argument starts and ends. 2015 = 2009 = 2006 = 2003 = 2001 = 1997 = 1992 = 1987 = 1984 = 1980 = 1976...so on and so forth. The team's results clearly don't matter to you, because you enjoy the White Sox no matter how they do. Alright, that's good for you, I guess, if winning is just something "nice" for you. Some by-product that if it happens, it happens, if it doesn't, oh well, it doesn't. Fine, I respect that. Just be respectful of those - and there are many of us, btw - who aim for something a little bit more than that.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 2, 2015 -> 09:38 PM) Reading the responses here, and all of your other responses, nothing is ever enjoyed. It is all about the 50 years they lost. If that isn't bitter, I don't know what is. You have made it clear you get nothing out of a year that doesn't involve the playoffs, otherwise it wouldn't be post after post about 5 in 55. Even with a clear chance to tell me you aren't bitter, you spend the whole time talking about all of the things you are bitter about. That is just such a waste. Find something you enjoy. I enjoy winning. Don't you? Certainly beats being "bitter" about some made-up garbage about an alleged "excuse laden" fan base that you cannot back up with anything resembling facts. Just YOUR bitter construed conjecture. Talk about a waste.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 2, 2015 -> 10:24 AM) So bitter. I have no idea why you still watch. Lol - well that's an easy one to answer. I watch because I am a fan - long suffering, admittedly, like yourself, what with the team's poor track record over the years and all, but a fan nonetheless. I'm also particularly interested now that there's an outside chance the team could slip into the playoffs. That doesn't happen very often for us as you know, so I remain hopeful that it does, and then, who knows? Once yer in, anything can happen! And maybe if they do make it to the postseason this year and proceed to make a good run at it while they're in there, you might just actually be able to provide an answer to the "What's your favorite playoff memory outside of 2005?" question. That seemed to be a stickler for you the first time you were asked.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 2, 2015 -> 04:21 AM) Live in the moment. When the Sox finish 79-83, be happy you saw some OK players take the field for the Sox. Sadly, this is what a half a century's worth of ineptitude can do to a fan base. "Be happy" for a "79-83" record because you got to see "some OK players take the field for the Sox"? I mean, really? You are perfectly fine settling for that because, why? We can tell a Cubs fan we've been to the World Series more recently than their team has? Really? Do Cardinals or Yankees or Giants or Red Sox fans have this kind of mindset and set the bar this low? Holy moly - Sox management must love you. "Accept our mediocrity, don't be mad at our routine meager results, and oh, by the way, while yer at it, come to our park, buy our tickets, purchase our parking, food and merchandise, and watch us on TV. And oh, how do ya like our OK players? Don't they look great in the '83 unis?" Lol - GMAFB!!

QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Aug 2, 2015 -> 07:14 AM) Everything about the Blackout game, including Alexei's grand slam a couple days before if we're counting it. Lol - I'm counting neither, actually. The "Blackout" game to which you are referring wasn't technically a playoff game, but rather the tie breaking game of the regular season that year, game #163. But I will give you it had the fun, energy and excitement of a playoff game. And god knows our fan base has been deprived of that experience over the years (just five measly trips to the postseason over the past - get this - 55 years!), so no wonder we made the most of it that particular day. And also no wonder with such a lack of postseason exposure in your lifetime with this team that you were inclined to reach back for the Alexei grand slam to answer my question. That was very telling in and of itself!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 12:28 PM) That is probably my absolute favorite non-playoff related highlight. Outside of 2005, what are your favorite "playoff related highlights"?

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 03:22 PM) If you want to sum it up. The front office just said f*** the playoff spot. That's really what happened here. I'm not 100% sure about that. I think trading Shark would have conveyed that message.

Wow - that Juan Marichal footage was pretty amazing

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 01:24 PM) It is in the exact context it was presented in. If you don't want it there, don't add it into the argument. Problem solved. LOL - problem solved will be you just going back to what you do best, which is your negative nattering about the fan base. I'll just go on and continue to enjoy discussing things with those posters who actually understand what's going on.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 10:34 AM) The context is all there. You are keep trying to pull back to generations earlier and use it against the team, but then try to claim that you aren't using as a reason for 2015. It is trying to have it both ways. It is really obvious, even if you don't want to admit it. I honestly don't think you will ever be able to have a "reasonable" conversation on this topic, because the grudge and anger here seem to run really deep, which is why the same posts about 35 and 55 years ago keep coming up over and over and over again in so many other topics and threads. Referring back to the 1960's/70's/80's fan bases, in multiple conversations about attendance in 2015, but trying to claim they weren't about attendance in 2015 is disingenuous at best. You can rant and get angry all you want, but the point you were trying to make is obvious, even as you retreat from it because you see how absurd it is. If you didn't want to make the point, you wouldn't have mentioned it in the first place in the context that you did. No, it is not. And so if you are going to respond to me, either figure out a way to put what I say in it's proper context, or just refrain from responding at all as your point of view is just not credible in the least. Thank you.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 09:31 PM) Yes, every post you have made has been very clear. Fans aren't going to games today because we didn't go to the enough playoffs in the 1960's. Why don't you BOLD the ENTIRE sentence you SELECTIVELY bolded from that previous post of mine you included in your last post, and then explain how you are tragically trying to show how that statement, TAKEN IN ITS PROPER ENTIRETY AND CONTEXT, supports what you are claiming is my intended message in your bolded statement above. Go ahead. Do it. Then maybe we can conduct this conversation in a reasonable manner.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 08:45 PM) Let Shark finish this. Only 99 pitches through eight - why not!!

Only 73 pitches through six innings.