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Ugh.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jan 13, 2015 -> 11:06 AM) Why the hell would you trade prospects for a rental? If the SOX traded for this guy for a year, they are dumber than I thought. Whether or not he signs an extension, they bought ONE YEAR of him for those prospects. If they decide to offer him a contract top buy more, that's fine, but it's a separate deal. Whether we like it or not, they DID buy a rental. And the move needs to be evaluated based on what they bought rather than what they will be in the future.

He's going to free agency.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 01:17 PM) Top 3 are as good as it gets. Back of the rotation? Ugly. 8-10 makes sense to me. Agreed

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 09:37 AM) Chris Beck at #6 is interesting as well. 2015 will be a big year for him Yeah, aggressive on Beck. However, after reading the whole article, it looks like it's more about them being down on Micah/Hawkins/etc. than high on Beck.

I found Soxtalk before WSI and never looked for anything else. The way you guys talk about it is intriguing, though -- sometimes I want to start posting there just to see how long it takes me to get banned.

Weird

QUOTE (Douglas Rome @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 04:13 AM) you snort it, you inject it, you suck on it, whatever, in my America, you never see the HOF. Same goes for the gamblers, Pete was a great player but he @#$%ed up. Some of these baseball writers are voting for the PED users, don't they get it? thanks, douglas The problem is that there are a ton of players you consider "model" hall of famers that did this stuff a bunch, but the media just didn't care. John Milner reported buying amphetamines from both Willie Mays and Willie Stargell, for example. Paul Molitor admitted to using cocaine. Orlando Cepeda was actually ARRESTED for smuggling marijuana into the country from Puerto Rico. Which, to me, doesn't bring up the issue of the Hall being "tainted" as much as it shows me that this stuff is only a big deal if we decide to make it a big deal. As of right now, you know that Willie Mays used amphetamines on the field, and I'm guessing you're going to let that slide into the back of your brain and still consider Willie Mays an inner-circle hall of famer.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 09:49 PM) having the smoke clear from the trading tables, how would you evaluate the field. in the AL the only team that seems to have done a nice job of rebuilding, acquiring missing pieces would be the Red Sox. however i know there are some very good pitchers on the FA market that can turn the tables real quick. 1. Sox 2 Bos, 3. Det tie Yanks. national league, i am not too good here. thoughts???? NL is headed up by the Nationals and Dodgers. Cardinals aren't too far behind, especially if they get the "front end starter" they're rumored to be seeking. Another team to watch in the AL is the Mariners.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jan 7, 2015 -> 06:04 PM) You don't just dump a 25 year old 20 plus homer guy that quickly. He can still fill a role for the Sox, if not traded What role does a bad hitter/bad defender/bad baserunner fill?

Yeah, he's a pretty clear-cut HOF guy, IMO. His problem was he excelled at things that were underappreciated by the public (not necessarily by players/managers) at the time he was active.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jan 6, 2015 -> 03:34 PM) What are people's beef with Mark Cuban? My impression is that he's a bit of a loose cannon -- he'll do whatever it takes to be successful, even if it's eccentric. That's great for fans, but I get the sense that the MLB owner's club wants guys they know are willing to play nice with the status quo.

JR doesn't have a moral imperative to spend all his money on the Sox any more than any of us have a moral imperative to spend ours.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 04:24 PM) EB .291/.341/.380 DV .291/.331/.507 Is that career? I am guilty of just looking at 2014 here. Last year: EB: 170 wRC+ (97 career) DV: 81 wRC+ (124 career) DV has been getting worse every year, but EB may be a dead-cat bounce that won't repeat.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 05:13 PM) This is a happy thought: http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dfJaD?utm_sou...icago-white-sox Please discuss. I believe this refers to the article being discussed here: http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=94246

You'd think Viciedo would be there.

Considering Bonifacio hits lefties WAY better than Viciedo does, and Bonifacio is a competent or maybe above average OF defender... I really, REALLY hope Viciedo isn't on this team. I'd DFA him, honestly. I know, I know, but this isn't a "see what we have" season anymore. Jordan Danks is a much more valuable bench asset for 2015.

Don't let us jerkwads scare you away. We get "passionate" about arguing ideas, but we aren't trying to be personal. Just argue "passionately" right back!

If everything goes according to plan, Bonifacio will be a high-playing time platoon bench player doing the Zobrist thing -- 2B, 3B, OF. That said, there's a real chance that Sanchez/Johnson are awful, and Bonifacio gets a lot of starts. It's not plan A, but it's a better outcome than that time going to Leury or Saladino.

QUOTE (Douglas Rome @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 07:25 AM) I don't miss the circus, but I do miss the clowns. thanks, douglas There's a reason you only find clowns in the circus, though.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 10:53 AM) i am still going to preach the concept, if the cost of getting this or any pitcher is NOT cost prohibitive, i would get a 1yr or 2 yr rental, a SP who will walk, give him a QO and hopefully redeem a draft pick. lets look at the Marlins, they have won 2 world series and immediately dismantle the team. i am not saying completely dismantle the team but to let them walk with a QO, to help the farm system. I think a lot of that money possibly just went to Bonifacio, unfortunately. I agree with the concept, though. If it was up to me, we'd only be betting on ONE of Danks/Noesi to break in the rotation next year. I think the Sox see Danks as a lock, though, and assume that Rodon will put pressure on Noesi eventually. The thing no one ever brings up, though, is that SOMEONE is likely to get injured.

When Danks is absolutely ON POINT, he can still be a good pitcher. The problem is that no one is really ON like that very often. To be a good major leaguer, you have to be a good player when you're performing at 75-80% of your best. Unfortunately for John, 75-80% right now means 88 mph with ok command or 91 mph with no command. I think he'll have some good starts next year, but he's ultimately a 5.00 ERA pitcher. For him to be better than that, IMO, he'll have to find a way to re-invent himself with a brand new pitch or style. That's certainly possible, just not likely.

170 wRC+ vs. lefties last year, 48 vs. righties.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 4, 2015 -> 11:45 AM) does anyone have a espn subscription??? olney talked about Scherzer mlb teams breakdown fit. http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/buster-oln...mp;refresh=true Here's the Sox part: