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QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 16, 2015 -> 11:07 PM) Nice to win and split it, 3-3 against a team that is better than the Sox. 3-3 is a good season series all things considered. You have to wonder. If we had Madden are the Sox 19 over and the Cubs five under .500? Maybe. Now as far as today's nice win ... nice to see the old winning formula for games in the Cell. Good pitching plus lift and pull. The return of the homer and good starting pitching usually is a winning formula for the Sox. Really? You honestly think a manager can make a 12 win difference. Come on.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 13, 2015 -> 02:48 PM) Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 1m1 minute ago People close to Chase Utley say he'll only agree to a deal if he's assured of playing time with acquiring team. Intends to play beyond 2015. Supposedly the Giants are after him pretty hard and Joe Panik is a lock to keep his 2B job when he comes off the DL in a week or so. Makes me think Utley wouldn't accept a trade there.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 13, 2015 -> 03:05 PM) I thought for sure they would overturn the call. I wonder if keeping him out had anything to do with the umpire taking the ball before Aybar was at 1B. Wouldn't it technically be dead and out of play? Flowers knew he didn't tag him. I hope in the future he throws to 1B anyway even if the batter is called out. Safe is better than sorry. Good point. I never noticed that. Any play that an ump rules dead is not reviewable and I would certainly think the umpire taking the ball would rule a play dead. What's Flowers supposed to do, grab a ball out of the umps little pouch?

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 13, 2015 -> 03:01 PM) You would think most catchers would throw the ball to first anyway. You would think after the 2005 post season some would learn from AJ did as a base runner. So if you catch a line drive and the ump calls an out are you going to throw to first too? The AJ thing is not comparable as Flowers clearly knew it was a dropped third strike and after he attempted the tag the ump pointed to the runner to acknowledge the tag and signaled he was out. What reason is there to keep playing? A play like that should not be reviewable.

QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Aug 13, 2015 -> 02:17 PM) Something's gotta give between Bonifacio, Thompson and Shuck, though I suppose it'll be nearly September when both the two rehabbing guys are back. Shuck can be on a rehab stint up to 20 days so maybe they'll just wait until September 1 to activate him.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Aug 13, 2015 -> 11:19 AM) I think replay has helped in getting the calls right more often but there are definitely situations where it gets tricky. I thought the general rule was to continue the play regardless of the call. Which is why it surprises me that it wasn't overturned. But if the ump calls the play dead, are they supposed to continue the play? But where do you draw the line on that. If he a guy hits a line drive down the foul line and the ump calls it foul are the players supposed to continue until all possible scenarios have been played out? No, games are long enough as it is. So then what do you do with the runner? Do you give him a double? Do you base it off the runners speed how far he would go? Ground rule double and fan interference calls already suck, do we really want more of those type situations? If that's the way baseball wants to go (which it appears they are) then at some point a playoff game is going to be decided based off of what an umpire thinks would normally happen.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 13, 2015 -> 11:04 AM) the home plate ump screwed up and thats why I think he allowed Scioscia to complain. He either confirmed to Flowers that it was an out by a caught third strike and didnt need a throw to first, or said he was out on the tag. You could tell Flowers was ready to throw when he popped up, and then didnt for a reason. That's why I hate replay in baseball. You end up playing imaginary baseball at times. It was clear Tyler didn't throw because the ump confirmed he was out. Anybody who watches baseball knows that the runner would be out 99% of the time on the play, but the other 1% the catcher ends up throwing it into right field and he makes it to third. But because the ump blew a call we don't know what would have happened. That puts the replay guys in tough spot too because they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. Either call they make is going to rightfully piss off one of the fanbases.

QUOTE (harkness @ Aug 13, 2015 -> 10:48 AM) True all teams make mistakes for sure. But you really have to follow a team to know if its systemic or not. I mean the Royals sure look like they don't make many mistakes... I've watched them probably more than many teams. But still can't say I know enough about them day to day. I don't think it's ever "systemic". It's just that certain teams have a bunch of guys with good instincts, others don't. A guy like De Aza is going to make dumb plays no matter who the hell the manager is, while you would be hard pressed to ever catch a guy like Robbie Alomar or Omar Vizquel making a mistake on the field regardless of how bad the manager is. Bottom line is that the players on the field win or lose you the game, not the guy in the dugout making out the lineup card.

It's supposed to be an automatic ejection to come back out and argue after a replay. I was shocked he wasn't tossed immediately.

QUOTE (harkness @ Aug 13, 2015 -> 09:28 AM) It's baseball - the manager's effect on the outcome (as you have said 1000 times) is often not important... doesn't change the perception of competence or incompetence. Bad teams having winning streaks all the time. The series last night doesn't define Ventura or the White Sox team this year. We will know at the end. Danks actually has been pitching well lately... sure hope it lasts. Makes a thread to complain about the coaching staff and then makes a post contradicting that by acknowledging that managers have little effect on the outcome. Make up your f***ing mind would ya? What Abreu did was just a brain fart. It happens even to the best players. It has nothing to do with Ventura or the coaching staff. The constant complaints about Ventura every time a Sox player makes a fundamental error that is taught in little league gets a little annoying. If a bunch of schlubs on a message board know that a play was made incorrectly do you really think that a Major Leaguer doesn't understand that as well? I don't think you can coach instincts, you either have them or you don't.

QUOTE (SnB @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 10:02 AM) Anyone going to the PGA championship in WI next weekend? Tickets look pretty reasonable on stubhub. I'm going on Friday.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 12:19 PM) It makes him stupid if he is continually exposing himself and his career to this. I don't think anybody is denying that. Obviously if he feels the need to get some strange he needs to be smarter about it and not just sleep with any random groupie he meets.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 12:10 PM) Bottom line for me, even if he ran into someone falsely accusing him: Kane has power that goes beyond money. He will walk into a place and be the most interesting person in the room, people will want to go up and talk to him and want him to like him just because he is a great hockey player. Kane has decided to use that power to have sex with lots of random women at bars. Not once in a while, but continuously. And he may run into women who naively just think it's cool they ran into a hockey player, and as night goes along and it's clear he wants to have sex with them, it may make them very uncomfortable to say no. That's why Patrick Kane is not like your random stories at a bar. How long do any of us at Kanes age kept going to bars to try and meet women? Not going out with other groups of friends, but actually just trying to meet a stranger at a bar and hook up? The guys just a f***ing asshole. No matter what, he won't be anything more than that. Okay, and these women want to have sex with Kane because he is rich and famous. Why does that make him any worse than them? He's using his fame and fortune to get laid, they're using they're looks. If it's consensual, who cares? It's a win-win. I live in a little town and trust me there are people of all ages and all walks of life at the bars looking to get laid. At the bar I most frequent, the bar sluts come out in full force a half hour or so before they close.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 11:39 AM) I think you are connecting his statement with a rape case a little too literally. He said in his experience usually sex was going to happen, not that she consented or that it has to happen, hes just stating his statistical experience. I agree. It reminds me of a time when I met a girl at a wedding and she ended up staying in my hotel room with me. She waited until we got to the hotel room to flat out tell she was on her period and wasn't going to have sex with me. Kind of irritated me because she obviously knew what I thought was going to happen back at the room judging by the way she flat out told me no sex before I attempted any sort of move. So what did we do? Laid on the bed watching tv until I took her home the next day.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 11:28 AM) Voluntarily going home with someone doesn't tell you whether that person later consented to having sex or not. She could have left with the intention of setting boundaries (3rd base only, not waving him home), she could have been too drunk to actually consent in the first place, she could have initially gone home with the intent of having sex but changed her mind. But it's still frequently used to discredit date rape victims. My guess is that if she set a 3rd base boundary before going home with Kane, then she wouldn't have been going home with Kane. He would have moved onto the next one. That is of course unless he is the new Cosby or Sharper, but I kind of doubt that. If he did rape her, I would assume it would be along of the lines of her changing her mind and him pleading until he finally got his way or her being too drunk to really know what's going on and Kane continuing. Of course if he assaulted her in any way he is a piece of s*** that should have the book thrown at him, but I just have a hard time believing that Kane is a rapist no matter what his history has been.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 10:21 AM) Except eventually most of us would grow out of it. He was handed his first 7 figure salary 8 years ago! Before this incident I was kind of thinking maybe he had. What was the last publicized one? The Madison thing in 2012?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 10:14 AM) It is like he is a high school kid, and needs someone to teach him about making good decisions. I wouldn't be as bad as Kane (especially if this allegation is true), but I think almost anyone of us here would have done a lot of stupid s*** too if we were handed fame and millions of dollars at 20 years old.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 10:06 AM) Sale is the team hot head. Yea but he's also 180 pounds soaking wet with toothpicks for arms.

QUOTE (LDF @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 09:41 AM) i would add Avi to that list. Look again, he's already there.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 07:41 AM) I feel like Abreu would be terrifying to fight. I don't think Abreu has the demeanor to be a big fighter. He seems like more of a lover than a fighter. The guys on the team I wouldn't want to f*** with would be Samardzija, Garcia and Flowers.

QUOTE (LDF @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 06:54 AM) while i totally agree with you, esp when a young man is hooking up or thinking of the big deed. there is still some uncertainty in this situation that none of us, knows. however with ref to tony's post, it is pov of having a higher ethical standard. but i will emphasize the fact that i keep using the young man phrase. the main reason, young men, regardless whether they have the world in their hands, the raging hormones causes men to go crazy and do stupid, illogical actions. I get that he is trying to say it's unethical or immoral, but why is two consenting adults (if that indeed is the case) having sex an issue whatsoever?

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 08:27 PM) Stop. Rock, you are better than that. NONE of us can compare our lives to a guy like Patrick Kane. He is in an entire different class, just like any other star athlete is. For the sake of this post, lets play the assumption game, and lets say he met a girl at a bar, lets say she was of legal age, and they slept together on a one night stand. That right there is a gigantic error in judgment, ESPECIALLY given his previous issues with extracurricular activities. Yes, it happens all the time, and yes in some ways it's not fair that he can't live a single man's lifestyle like a lot of do or have in the past. However, with a 10 million per contract and being one of the faces of your sport, that's part of the ballgame. It just is. You HAVE to be smarter than that. It's incredibly poor judgment to put yourself in that spot, as well as the organization that has stood by you after he has already had issues. Just an incredibly disappointing situation for all involved. I'm failing to see why this is a problem. What decade is it again? Do you really not think that nearly every professional athlete, musician or actor is not doing the exact same thing, even many of the married ones? If going to a bar and hooking up with a girl is a crime then lock us all up and throw away the key.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 02:49 PM) The Ozzie haters blame Ozzie for Kotsay. It's not hating on Ozzie to call a spade a spade. He was given his choice on DH and he chose Kotsay. End of story.

QUOTE (Julius @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 01:53 PM) In my opinion, the sox will not get Chris Sale into the playoffs during the remaining years of his contract. In other words the "3 year plan" will be an utter failure. Once his contract is up, they will let him walk. In turn, the sox brass will be let go and JR sells the team. The sox brass are at fault. People who think that it makes sense to go from Mark Kotsay->Adam Dunn->Adam LaRoche deserved to be canned. The Mark Kotsay thing was on Ozzie. Ozzie wanted more flexibility out of the DH and KW let him make the call. KW wanted to re-sign Thome. And can we please just let Adam Dunn thing go? Sure he was horrible in 2011 and didn't live up to expectations overall, but the fact of the matter is that from 2012-2014 he was 5th in the Majors in HRs and 4th in BBs which are the two things that the Sox signed him to do. This team would look a lot better this year with Adam Dunn on it.

QUOTE (shipps @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 02:38 PM) Thank you guys. I am all about the sound that comes out. Thats why you want to listen to vinyl anyways. I might have to invest just a little bit more and go for the Audiotechnica if thats going to give a better sound then. The only thing the Crosleys have going for them is that most of them have built in speakers. If you go with any sort of "real" turntable like the Audio-Technica I listed, you will also need a receiver and speakers. Between the turntable, receiver, speakers and speaker wire I have roughly $600 or so into my system and that's just for a pretty moderate one. You can easily get into the couple thousand dollar range if you really want to get the most out of your records.