Flash Tizzle

QUOTE(diegotony06 @ Jul 4, 2007 -> 08:22 PM) I am so anxious to see how KW is gonna possibly improve this team next year. What possibly canhe do?? Nobody is gonna give you s*** for JC. Do you trade JV?? JG?? MB?? I mean how the hell are we gonna get some young talent into this Org.?? I just don't see many of our players having any kind of trade value, except for JG, MB, and possibly JV. Dye isn't worth a damn. Thome?? Aside from the draft, this is why I continually mention that our international scouting must improve. Quickly. Otherwise, Williams better receive stellar packages for any player traded; Dye or not. Improbable as it may be, it's just what he has to do to improve the collection of talent within the system. I'm not giving him any sympathy. People may not want to hear it, but realistically, one of Buehrle or Garland has to be traded. Otherwise, better identify raw talent in the lower levels of another ballclub. Thome may be another option, but the problem is finding his replacement. Atleast the pitching within the system has some hope of achieving success. The problem I've identified with Williams is he's more willing to trade someone a year too late rather than a year too early. And yes, I understand we've been in contention and certain players you couldn't expect a dropoff (such as Dye). I sincerely hope he understands the competitors within the division are more talented, and more likely to contend for a championship 08 and byeond. This belief I've held of dealing now rather than later is why I've been a proponent of dealing Jenks. We're not in a good position these next several seasons to compete. Somehow, someway, things need to improve. People with value will need to be dealt unless Williams comes up with a few shrewd moves.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jul 4, 2007 -> 07:58 PM) Well lets see, now the Mets will give us a big bowl of dog snot for Contrares. Great. That's down only from a game expired New York subway tokens. Atleast we'll have Crede and Dye to trade. Oh....

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 4, 2007 -> 07:28 PM) The Buehrle situation while incredibley frusterating doesn't need to be rushed. Trading JC should have been down like a month ago though, he's killing his trade value. When it's filtered through the media that deadlines are established, then after broken, it becomes a bit tiring. When it's filtered through the media that Buehrle is close to signing, then isn't, and a NTC is an obstacle then it just gets to a point where I want it to end. Recently Wednesday (today) was set as the deadline. It better be. I don't know to keep hearing about new extensions. Another problem here is delaying the signing/trading of Buehrle just prolongs the frustration with this dead season. Nothing seems to have gone our way. Everything is a circus and drawn out.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 4, 2007 -> 07:17 PM) The Buerhle situation should have no affect on the Contreras removal. This guy is going to be on the bill for 2 more years. If we can get this off, it will allow us to take that money and use it elsewhere. The Count is having huge velocity issues. What sort of impression does it send to trade Contreras while in negotiations with Buehlre? If I didn't know better (which I do), I'd think he wasn't devoting all his attention to the more important issue. It just doesn't look good. Hence, if Buehrle's contract negotiation is given top priority -- which it may or may not be labeled -- then everything should be done quicker because I can't stand another Contreras start.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 4, 2007 -> 07:14 PM) Maybe you should answer your PM's. Ha, I thought you were drunk. You had "nm" in the title and I thought perhaps you used your magically admin powers to edit the title after it was sent. To answer the question, no I don't.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 4, 2007 -> 07:12 PM) He is f***ing us, by playing like crap, and he is killing his trade value because the scouts have radar guns, and can see what we are seeing. He is 88 and down, it seems like Garcia all over again. Trade Contreras for Milledge and additional prospect and end his time on the Southside.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Jul 4, 2007 -> 07:06 PM) Haha. Jose is so bad. Please Kenny, get rid of him. Why do you want to keep him and let Buehrle go? My god it must be great to live the life of an insane person. Haha. This game is gonna be out of reach in like, 7 pitches. I've really become irritated with this lull in activity. Does it really take an additional four days to negotiate a NTC? All parties know now by now their position. Tomorrow should be the limit with this Buehrle situation. Either trade him or sign him. Enough of this. If Contreras' removal is entirely dependent upon Buehrle, more the reason to speed everything up.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 09:14 PM) FWIW, Buehrle finally gave AJP the watch he owed him from the no-hitter. The fact he gave it to him now would make it seem like he might be leaving soon. He should either be signed or traded by Thursday morning.

He should have started yesterday on normal schedule. Previous starts were June 23rd and June 28th.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 06:51 PM) Hey Flash...mgmt has contacted us and said that we can not continually allow you to slam the organizatoins minor league policy and as such you have now been banned from posting. /removes shirt ............ What you do want to do? You can't kill the message. Where's our {insert name} will go far beyond my internet death.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 01:04 PM) Javy will own tonight... only to leave and have the bullpen give up the lea. I say Aaaaaaaardsma is the one who blows it tonight. Isn't this usually what you say before every Vazquez start? The only thing missing is the phrase, "his start will make people say, Chris who?"

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 06:17 PM) BTW, here's a sneak preview of the Eggy interview: Does anyone here know, who has met him personally, whether he speaks in the stereotypical Staten Island accent? That would only heighten my appreciation of Egbert. It's great that Soxtalk has the opportunity to interview these players. Interesting to know what prospects such as Gonzalez think of themselves and their ability. Aside from that, always good to have connections within the organization. As long as the attention doesn't bring with it censorship, then I'm fine.

QUOTE(29thandPoplar @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 04:26 PM) We are talking, in general, about signing 16 year olds here. Guillen has suggested (strongly I may add) that they play the numbers game instead of plunking down big sums of $ for one or two guys I agree with Guillen's approach. Similar to the amateur draft in America, praise from scouts and slot money doesn't guarantee success. Those sought after and given big bonuses may succeed more often than your average non-drafted free agent, but still, for an area such as Latin America -- which represents upwards of 20% of MLB -- not every player from that region is the result of a bidding war. I compare it to the draft in another sense. If we're given, let's say, two million to spend in the Dominican Republic; it'd be more beneficial to have more draft picks than throwing it all at one or two players. Perhaps for every six selected one turns into a major leaguer. If even that one player turns into a future hall of famer it'll be worth all the embarrassment of watching teams such as Bristol struggle. What I've always wanted to see is an increased presence overseas. For results to show up at a reasonable interval. Not having a contributing player from Latin America in over 10 years is inexcusable. Maybe DLS will change that and develop into a legitimate ace. Or, maybe he'll become the next Merkin Valdez. Atleast the opportunity is there for someone to turn into something of value. If their Venezuelan summer league is gone, then what happens to those players developed through the academy? Instead of a VSL affiliate, where do they go -- to the Dominican Republic? I'm asking because I dont know. Wouldn't it be a disadvantage for us when other clubs have their teams within the country?

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 09:12 AM) According to KW, he's waiting to get the Buehrle situation resolved before making any other moves. So basically, the worst case scenario would be to have to trade Buehrle for a less than tremendous package, and then have to keep Contreras and his contract. They really need to get this Buehrle situation resolved in the next 10 days though. I don't think the Mets will ever be as desperate for pitching as they are now. 10 days?! It should be resolve by tomorrow. This is becoming ridiculous. Either trade him or sign him, already. I'm tired of waking up to the same information bouncing around. The deadline I read several days ago concerning Buehrle and a contract should be enforced by Wednesday.

QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 03:02 PM) Bristol is absolutely horrible 2-11. another good year of drafting by the sox. Should I be shocked that team Bristol faced yesterday, the Twins rookie affiliate, is 12-1? Or that the White Sox Dominican summer team is 6-20? Or the second DSL team of the White Sox is 8-17?

QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 02:25 PM) Q: Luke from Des Moines asks: Hey Chris, love the chats. Do you think the White Sox will sign any high-profile players this year?--I hear they want to have a bigger international presence. (By the way, at my game last Sunday, D-Ray's prospect Jeremy Hellickson's dad was the home plate ump.) A: Chris Kline: Haven't really heard them connected to anyone of significance, to be honest. If they want to have more of a presence in Latin America, that's cool, but I've heard that people in Venezuela weren't exactly fine with what happened in La Guaira last winter. Now big league bench coach Razor Shines was fired from there and players like Josh Fields, Ryan Sweeney, etc., left after Shines was gone. I know Ozzie Guillen and Joey Cora hold a lot of weight; but I don't think Chicago are going to be major players this year, anyway. I think the Cubs actually have more of a stronghold in VZ, no matter how much that hurts The Good Guys. Oops. Talent's better in the Dominican anyways. It's almost as if the organization devises new ways to limit channels for acquiring talent. Well, good luck competing with the Mets and the four million dollars spent updating their Dominican Republic baseball academy. Or working around the Dodgers, Anaheim, Yankees.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 10:09 PM) Ah, so ignore his actual performance and stats whatsoever, and consider his velocity drop and an injury that happened years ago, and THAT makes him ineffective. What am I ignoring concerning his performance? Or supposed ineffectiveness? Super. His BAA and WHIP based upon 30 innings is the best in his career. They were good over 40 innings last season prior to the All-Star break, too. I'm suggesting you can assume his statistics hold up over the next several years, at the risk a drop in velocity is suggestive of possible arm troubles, or hold onto Jenks for a team that won't compete for several seasons.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 10:02 PM) Why? Because his WHIP and BAA have never been better in his career? If he were consistently at 93-95 mph since 2005 it'd be different. But considering his past injury history and a continuous drop in velocity season to season (not to mention his second half struggles last year), I just can't assume it'll suddenly stop entering 2008.

I hope people opposed to trading Jenks hold this game in their memory. Without a 98-100 mph fastbal to compensate for command, he's just not as effective at 93-95. I wouldn't be surprised if his velocity dips below 92 entering next season. Then what is Williams going to do? Worry about his replacement later.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 09:54 PM) are we blowing the lead? i don't have it on tv here It's already blown.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 09:50 PM) ESPN.com On ESPN a caption under Buehrle's name says, "All signs point to Mark Buehrle nearing the end of the road in Chicago." The title of the article is, "An Incredible Journey." I wouldn't say it's looking very good.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 09:41 PM) Any word on the Intl signings today.

QUOTE(GOD @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 09:41 PM) Hey since all this started we are 7-1 (assuming we win tonight). So keep it up Kenny Unfortunately, even with a victory, we're 12.5 out of the division lead and 10.5 out of the wildcard with six teams to jump. He'll have to continue speaking about the NTC for another month for any hope to ressurect.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 09:19 PM) Partly because of how well he pitched against us, and partly because how everyone loves him on here. I've always said that Reyes and Aybar are the two most overrated players on this site. I haven't seen anyone overrate Reyes in more than a year. And that lasted about a week following his one-hitter against the Sox.

Boonito saving the team from embarrassment, yet again. Still the 9th inning, unfortunately.