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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 07:26 AM) And we are supposed to trust your eye test over stats? Trust him, he was on TV for 15 years. He knows this stuff

Sure will be miserable for Greg and that WBSASDAJS guy when Kopech, Eloy, and others come up and start performing. I expect them to keep their anti-rebuild positions when this happens.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 27, 2017 -> 07:26 AM) Teams probably wouldn't do that so they can keep the DH when he is taken out. Juat let him start at DH 3 games between starts. It would be kind of interesting if he came over and had success with the bat and was hitting like 6th on games he started in the NL games. Would just be odd seeing the starting pitcher hitting 6th. We could always put a wizard at SS or CF and have a DH bat for them. Youd just have to have pinch hitters ready for when Ohtani get pulled.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 27, 2017 -> 02:34 AM) Perhaps it was this? I can't see anything before this about it. Greg spreading fake news again. Typical.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 26, 2017 -> 12:37 PM) Great post. That's why I fully expect the Sox to trade Abreu/Avi. We're in a new era where the fans don't mind dumping everybody in the name of rebuild and it's a great way to provide the owners so much money for generations to come. If you are a GM and have the OK from everybody, why the heck wouldn't you trade everybody you can? The unknown player is so much sexier than the known. Cmon. the Sox are not paying Machado 400 million. It's not going to happen. He's already out East and desired by all the Eastern teams with cash. We're not getting Manny Machado for 400 to 500 million bucks for gosh sakes. Should be interesting to see the takes of the trade people and the people who don't want to spend cash on the Manny situation. Hmmm one player who will be 26 (Avi is one year older and considered too old for our WS contending window by some) commanding all that money? First of all Sox won't pay that. Second of all should be interesting to see who on here is in favor of paying Manny unprecedented dollars. Machado isn't getting 500mil. That is absurd. 400 mil is even a bit high. He didn't exactly light it up last season. I predict something like 10 year 35 mil. Would you rather have avi + abreu or Machado+ more touted prospects? I know what makes sense. The sox will have NO payroll. I don't see why it's hard to imagine the sox making a play for Machado. It makes almost too much sense. What's the different between signing 2-4 free agents vs signing machado? Obviously the length will be different, but they will have LOTS of payroll freed up. I don't know what you have against Jerry or if you are stereotyping, but he will spend if he sees it as a wide investment.

This isn't rocket science. Jose is an aging slugger who had a hell of a year. Trade him while he is under contract for 2 more years. The dude has value. Either we keep him and he declines, or we keep him, he performs, and he commands a BIG contract. Both lose lose situations when we aren't competing Think of it this way. The money we don't spend signing abreu goes towards signing Manny Machado. Tarde Jose and Avi the hell out of here for some good prospects. Use the savings to land Mr Machado. Way lah

You don't chance abreu having a down year and hurting his trade value. Trade him for prospects if the to t it deal comes. Rockies aren't trading rodgers for Abreu LOL. Some people overvalue him around here. Two prospects in the 50-100 range or a top 100 and 2-3 decent prospects if possible.

I don't care what any damn fluff piece article says about Shohei not caring about money. 300k vs 3-8 mil is a HUGE difference, and it is the difference between being financially sound for your entire life. This kid could blow his arm out and then it is over. He won't be coming here for 300k. I'd love to live in fantasy land where it happens, but it aint happening. However, I think a HUGE indicator of there being a chance would be if the Sox hired Tadahito iguchi. Iguchi is looking to get into the managerial game, and he is beloved by the Sox. Once they sign him to a position, then we can start talking. Until then, I'm not holding my breath.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 31, 2017 -> 04:02 PM) This isn't like college basketball ... a guy taking a job at Tulsa only to skip away to a Power Five conference job after two seasons. The Sox supposedly are the next great thing. Why is Chicago a stepping stone job? It's a great city and Cleveland got Francona to go there for gosh sakes. It's not like the south side job is trash with this young talent coming up. A good manager might win 2, 3, 4 titles in chicago. You're taking the whole "I'm a complete dolt" act to a whole new level. sorry mods, but 4 titles?

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Oct 25, 2017 -> 02:35 AM) Gregg775, ron883, Iwin4Ron Book it, baby!!! My mentor, me, and my groupie. I like it! Bet the house on it, folks!

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Oct 23, 2017 -> 10:08 PM) Well, there were a few variations I made awhile back: one was Anderson, Q, Rodon the other: Anderson, Moncada, Rodon. They live in the ether and are a bit dire. I decided no minor leaguers hit the banner until they debut, this isn't futuresox. So who gets featured? I typically go 3 pics, can be the same dude or any combination of ML players. Scrap those. Moncada, Eloy, and Kopech. That's where my vote goes.

Looked at winter league stats for the Dominican league for the heck of it. Some ex white sox players tore up the Dominican winter league. The batting leading in 2008 was Mr. Pablo Ozuna, with a robust .390 average. The batting leader in 2009 was Timo Perez, with a .356 average. ....Fernando Tatis Sr. hit .338 and .294 in those years, respectively.

Stopped after reading #2. Sigh

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 14, 2017 -> 06:08 PM) https://twitter.com/HayesNBCS/status/919335527056154624 Not AZ fall League, but Eloy highlights Man that kid has light tower power

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 14, 2017 -> 07:32 PM) I think you trade anyone in all of baseball for the right offer, but the right offer rarely comes forward. Good point. You probably don't get the right offer for avi and abreu honestly.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 14, 2017 -> 04:26 PM) Did you read my post? I offered a story to back up my point and I said I understood why they might trade the two this winter. I also said I disagree with it because of their intangibles and tangibles. I consider that a good message board post. I feel honored so many of you rate all my posts. Hardly anybody else gets each post rated. Many on here don't respond at all to what I'm saying and they blast me for not responding to all points on other posts. Again I am honored so many of you comment on my posts but not what's in my posts. Just either say I'm a troll or live in my own little world. Very wild greg brings this out. Can't people just comment on what's IN my posts? I feel a lot of my points are worth discussion not just tossing aside saying "troll" or frankly worse. Are Abreu and Avi's intangibles worth anything or not?? I say yes and they'd be valuable on our next contender. What intangibles does Avi bring? I don't value intangibles very much. I agree abreu is a great clubhouse leader. But I think you sell high on him and avi if you get the right offer.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 14, 2017 -> 12:53 PM) Do you at least agree with me that the trading has to stop at some point? When do you want to finally win? Trade anybody with value. Abreu, anderson, avi, leury, yolmer. Ship them all out. Stockpile all the prospects you can.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 13, 2017 -> 11:29 PM) Guys, we're in the midst of Cub dynasty. Cubs over the Dodgers to reach the WS. Book it. Don't know how many games yet. your schtick is golden man. Don't know how you do it.

I want the cubs to win so I can party at sluggers and the cubby bear Saturday

2-3 with a walk for seby. My guy! I'm excited about a future Zack Collins/Seby Zavala platoon at C. Not completely sold that Collins will be able to hit lefties. His stats against them are quite ugly.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 11, 2017 -> 05:27 PM) I wonder how Joe is doing with his workout regimen.... Last time he successfully completed his workout regime he came up with the nickname "HoT FiRe" when his endorphins were at their peak. I'd imagine we can expect a nickname or two of that magnitude by the end of the regimen.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Oct 11, 2017 -> 08:00 PM) 200 mil = 20 tens So tens of tens. Smdh.

QUOTE (Quin @ Oct 10, 2017 -> 11:02 PM) - Cutting up jerseys to get his way - Tried to fight opposing teams - DrakeGate And there's more. I like Sale and appreciate what he did on the South Side, but it's easy to dislike him. Meanwhile Quintana pitches for the damn Cubs and you've got people pulling for him because he was essentially the heir to Mark Buehrle So the only players people like on this board are prospects and a cubs player? Cmon folks...

So let's say this guy may have made 8 mil in his career. Do you honestly think we don't aim to double his wealth as opposed to making a mere 300k? I can't think of any example where a player who has made as little as he has so far taking such a monster pay cut. It isn't happening unless there is a handshake deal in place

It's a shame we decided to trade Chris Sale and rebuild. Some of us fans hate losing this much and would rather see a fringe playoff team that may get to the wild card game and then get beaten down when Sale starts it