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Can we expect anything out of these guys or just Minor league depth

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 11:06 AM) He's going to be 23 next year. No, he has no MLB experience, but that doesn't matter for next year's team. Tyler Flowers had major league experience and he was a mammoth of a bust. Here are his numbers http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/p...id=perez-010car I was just wondering if he did or not. But he would definitely be helpful and add depth to that position through the organization.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 10:31 AM) The Sox merely have to hope that the Marlins pass on Carlos Perez and they will have a chance to get a guy with a career .280/.365/.395/.760 in the minors. I'd rather they not trade for anyone, take him, re-sign Flowers, and go into camp with 2 of the 3 breaking camp with the Sox. How old is he? Does he have any major league experience?

I'd definitely do 5/125 for Cano

Dioner Navarro to the Jays and writers say he's likely to start with the Jays wanting to trade Arancibia. Not that I want him out anything but we know Hahn has had discussions with the Jays about players. What about Beckham for JP straight up?

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 28, 2013 -> 02:53 PM) So Quintana's contract situation would be what exactly right now? Well considering what Chris Sale is at...I assume under that.

Good see Thompson and Sanchez. Wonder if Jacobs and Wilkins get added?

I like the sound of that

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 06:32 PM) Daryl Von whatever, Sun Times beat writer, was on Kaplan's show and confirmed Dan Hayes' report about everyone being available except Sale, Q, Abreu and Garcia. A GM also told him Reed was basically untouchable as well. It makes sense with Reed. I would have to be blown away with an offer for Reed

QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 13, 2013 -> 12:40 PM) As stated in the other thread(perhaps we can move all take here?) I'd rather just sign Salty if possible. Then trade a pitcher to fill a hole else where. I was the one who brought up Weiters for the sake of argument because we need a catcher. But I agree with this because Weiters has declined the past 2 seasons and getting Salty at 4/40 is a nice piece for what Hahn is trying to build. Then trade Santiago + to get your franchise third baseman.

Weiters has become available per Rosenthal. Has 2 years left and his agent is Boras? Do/Should Sox go after him?

QUOTE (ChiSoxFan05 @ Nov 12, 2013 -> 07:52 PM) Dan Hayes: "What that means is anyone not named Jose Abreu, Avisail Garcia, Sale and Jose Quintana can be acquired in a trade, those executives confirmed." Jose Quintana will be here next year. Just about to post that. Really glad Q is going to be here. He's the perfect #2 behind Sale

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Nov 11, 2013 -> 10:34 AM) I don't think I'd flip Q. I'd build a deal around Hector though. Definitely would not deal Quintana for Rosario. I'd rather trade Santiago and a prospect for Rosario.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 9, 2013 -> 12:27 PM) Not sure if I've already brought up his name yet, but the Mets are said to be "aggressively" shopping Daniel Murphy. I don't know how good he is defensively at 2B but he'd be a pretty good upgrade offensively over Beckham, and he bats left handed. They could really use some OFers, so a deal built around De Aza and Murphy could make some sense(Assuming the Sox want to trade him and can get a new CFer/Lead-off guy in here). Murphy is a career .295/.344/.441 hitter vs RHP(1665 ABs) and he's not that bad vs LHP either, .274/.301/.375 I would definitely like to go after Murphy. I've always liked him. He's still fairly young right?

So much for Bryan Pena. Signs a 2 year deal with the Reds. Going to back up Mesaroco. Hanigan likely to get traded.

Ok thanks guy for clearing that up for me. Helps a lot

How does a player qualify to be a non tender canidate? I see Tyler Flowers is a non tender canidate for the Sox and there are some pitchers I would be interested in on cheap one year deals with option years. Johnny Venters, and Daniel Hudson I could see the Sox go after I they do get non tendered.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Nov 5, 2013 -> 12:29 PM) Depending on how confident the team is in Webb, you could possibly pull off Santiago/Reed/De Aza for Parra, Owings, and Barrett. You basically have to trade Gordon to someone like the Blue Jays in this scenario. Then you can put Owings at 2B and Semien at 3B. With the Abreu signing, I'm inclined to keep Alexei for one more year. Sox would be offering waaaayyyyyy to much for Parra, Davidson and Barrett....

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 4, 2013 -> 06:11 PM) That is my point. I don't understand how Balta is trying to change my claims but they are as simple as that. I agree. The players I mentioned I feel like can be the core of the offense. And then just find or develop other player thy fit around them or even become part of the core. Hopefully Thompson an Hawkins figure it out this year in the minors. I trust the Sox to develop pitching. Go after Gatewood at #3 and he can be apart of this in a couple years to replace Alexei.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 4, 2013 -> 06:05 PM) I never proposed these moves. I stated several times "in this hypothetical" and said again it was SoxPride's plan. If you look in whatever thread Saltalamachiia is being talked about I am the one voicing caution. Try to stay on topic here: SoxPride proposed the Sox get Lawrie and Salty. All I argued was that in terms of production 2013 C 2013 1B 2013 2B 2013 3B Do you really disagree with that? You can't disagree with that. I feel like the offense would definitely be more competent in theory of course and getting a third basemen of the future and a relatively young catcher still in Salty. In my opinion I think you can build off guys like Garcia, Viciedo, Abreu, Semein, and Lawrie. Adding Salty would be a good complimentary piece while he's still somewhat young.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 4, 2013 -> 04:20 PM) So you're saying C - Saltalamacchia 1B - Abreu 2B - Beckham/Semien SS - Ramirez 3B - Lawrie LF - Viciedo CF - De Aza RF - Garcia DH - Dunn is a legit offense? It's an improvement, but I still have my doubts as to whether that offense would score 650 runs. Honestly I truly believe it could be very good. And Beckham would probably be headed to Toronto also.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 4, 2013 -> 03:48 PM) I think Johnson is a terrible fit for this team unless a couple pitchers are traded away beforehand. Sorry for not classifying but yeah only sign Johnson if pitchers get traded.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 4, 2013 -> 04:05 PM) If we trade Santiago I am in for JJ but if not, let the youngins throw but your argument does preface a conversation about depth which I think is very important. All scenarios have Snodgress, Beck and Bassit as potential 2nd half starters depending on the trajectory of their respective seasons. Stay put: 1. Sale 2. Quintana 3. Danks 4. Santiago 5. Erik Johnson 6. Rienzo Trade Santiago and otherwise stay put: 1. Sale 2. Quintana 3. Danks 4. Johnson 5. Rienzo 6. Leesman (god forbid we take on the Axelrod experiment again) Trade Santiago and sign Josh Johnson: 1. Sale 2. Quintana 3. Josh Johnson 4. Danks 5. Erik Johnson 6. Rienzo I for one am not sold on Rienzo as a starter yet but similarly to EJ, I do like his mound presence and he's a very good 6th option. I would like to have the luxury of having him his refine his pitches as a starter in AAA. To me, it all comes down what the potential return could be on Hector and what kind of a position player we could get in return. As for Johnson, our track record with pitchers makes me want him bad. If health is the issue, no staff has been as good as ours in that respect. The guy still throws hard and has been ridiculously good for several years prior to last. While I don't agree with all of the posters who overstate the need for a RHSP at the expense of one of our LHSPs, it definitely doesn't hurt that JJ is RH. Looking at the last rotation, you basically know what you're getting from Sale and Quintana, we should expect improvement from Danks and if either Johnson plays to their full potential we have a top rotation that can handle an injury. I agree, my argument in getting Josh Johnson is in regards to depth if Sox do trade Santiago. I really think we can get Santiago and lesser prospects for Brett Lawrie. This happens and then sign Salty and Sox can have a legit offense

With Josh Johnson and Jarrod Saltalamcchia not receiving qualifying offers I feel like Hahn has to be all over these 2. Agree? I would do 4/40 max for Salty and 1/10 with an option for a 2n year.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 4, 2013 -> 03:35 PM) Hypothetically...if they signed McCann and that cost us our 2nd rounder anyway...would you be willing to lose a 3rd for Granderson? No. Don't want to give up picks