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It's literally impossible for the Sox to find a better player on the FA market with anywhere close to this upside on a 1 year $20M deal (really $18M because $2M was sunk cost), with an additional 1 year team option at the same rate. Absolute no brainer move imo. I get why a chunk of Sox fans want to move on, but this was an easy decision.
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Sox were so due for some good fortune and it's suddenly showing up in spades.
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White Sox @ Detroit; Smith vs Flaherty 5:40pm CST
ChiSox59 replied to Kyyle23's topic in 2025 Season in Review
That sense of believing sure is a welcome feeling. -
He was not selected this am, fwiw. Maybe they let Bryce Wilson eat 5 innings today, then DFA and select Clevinger? Feel like Fegan probably didn't get bad info.
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Really happy the Sox gave Lenyn a real shot this year rather than signing over him. Can't say he necessarily deserved it, but this is what happens when you let guys get comfy. Now we suddenly have a 2-2.5 war infielder with 4 more years of control.
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My twins fan buddies are in shambles today with the Pohalds announcing they are not selling. Sweet sweet twin tears.
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Sox trade Andrew Vaughn to acquire Aaron Civale
ChiSox59 replied to WestEddy's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Good for AV. Happy for him. Sox have been much more interesting since he's been gone. -
I am a big Kyle Teel guy. Kinda the epitome of what we haven't had for so long.
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Adrian Houser traded to TB for former top prospect Curtis Mead
ChiSox59 replied to Bob Sacamano's topic in Pale Hose Talk
There is no reason to abandon Teel as a catcher at this point. But Lee should absolutely be on the roster and I have no issue letting Teel get reps in LF and 1B. -
Luis Robert trade thread: La Pantera stays.
ChiSox59 replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
There really is no point in debating it with Lip. Whatever the Sox do, it was the wrong decision. -
I doubt that. They preferred giving away a collection of non-exciting prospects and Mullins vs. whatever Getz was demanding for Robert.
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Luis Robert trade thread: La Pantera stays.
ChiSox59 replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Anthony Santander has been a significantly less valuable baseball player over his career than Luis Robert. Those are just facts. Santander's 2024 season would be Robert's third best. We can agree to disagree on this. I hope the Sox can move Robert for a really nice player. But if it doesn't work out, retaining him for 1/$20M is far from a disaster. -
Luis Robert trade thread: La Pantera stays.
ChiSox59 replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Again, you're failing to include the prospect return in your analysis. 1/20 + meaningful prospects Sox are asking for is much different than $20M AAV on the FA market. Anthony Santander - for example - who has accumulated 5 fWAR LESS than Robert in his career in over 300 more games than Robert just got 5/$94M last offseason. Santander is a poor defender, a poor baserunner and 3 years older than Robert. -
Luis Robert trade thread: La Pantera stays.
ChiSox59 replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
You're way undershooting it. Robert does a lot of things really well even if he doesn't hit any better than he has last couple years. And he's 27. -
Luis Robert trade thread: La Pantera stays.
ChiSox59 replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Lol, they definitely could trade him. They are trying to actually acquire meaningful pieces, not give him away. Teams do stupid things in free agency because they don't actually have to give away anything but money. -
Twins are a dumpster fire right now, and as a nearly lifelong MN resident, I am so here for it.
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Luis Robert trade thread: La Pantera stays.
ChiSox59 replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
In today's game $20M doesn't get you much. That can get you a guy with less than half the upside of Robert for maybe60-70% of the AAV, but you may have to commit multiple years. I know Sox fans have soured on Robert - and for good reason - but $20M for him is not a bad number. If Sox (or whoever he gets traded to) buys him out (unlikely imo), I bet he'd easily surpass 5/$100M on the open market. -
Heard Twins are eating $40M here.
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Luis Robert trade thread: La Pantera stays.
ChiSox59 replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Right? I don't give a s%*# about Robert's $20M. I am not paying the bill. The Sox have to have a bottom 2 or 3 committed payroll in 2026 INCLUDING Robert, and they obviously will not be in on top tier FAs this offseason, so who cares? Robert at $20M is a way better bet than anyone you're going to find on the FA market. -
Luis Robert trade thread: La Pantera stays.
ChiSox59 replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
A 40 FV prospect really doesn't do much for the Sox future. They could actually be a watchable team next year, and Robert is easily the most likely player they have or could acquire that could be a 4-5 win player. Is there some risk? Yah, sure - to JR's wallet. I don't think the risk of losing out on a back-end top 20 type prospect is really much of a gamble. Now, if they can get a legit interesting piece for him, you absolutely trade him. -
Luis Robert trade thread: La Pantera stays.
ChiSox59 replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Wouldn't you rather Getz ask for the moon, and settle later if no one meets the price, as opposed to just taking a garbage offer? I don't really get why any Sox fan would have a problem with the approach he is taking.
